Bush won't tolerate nuclear Iran

As was the case with Iraq, Bush has yet to produce any evidence that Iran is building anything other than a power station. And, like Iraq, Bush cannot explain why even with nuclear arms, Iran is any kind of threat to the United States, which possesses the largest nuclear arsenal in the world and remains historically the only nation to use nuclear weapons against a civilian population.

 

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Sure, a major oil exporting nation needs nuclear power to generate electricity. Give me a break, Brian.

 

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Walnut, what is your dream in life, to be sitting on the head of the first nuclear missile, iran lauches against America, like in the movie doctor strangelove with peter sellers.
I can see you with a big smile on your face, as you approach the whitehouse strapped to a iranian nuke.

Come on walnut is this all you dream off.

 

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Good point Anthony.

Geoff

 

AP
VIENNA, Austria Jan 23, 2006 — Iran will immediately retaliate if referred to the U.N. Security Council next week by forging ahead with developing a full-scale uranium enrichment program, a senior envoy said Monday.

The comments by Ali Asghar Soltaniyeh, a senior envoy to the International Atomic Energy Agency, reflected Iran's defiance in the face of growing international pressure over its nuclear program. Enrichment can be used in electricity production but it also is needed in making uranium-based nuclear weapons.

Separately, Iran's top nuclear negotiator planned to travel to Moscow on Tuesday for a high-level session as talks intensified surrounding a proposal to have Iran's uranium enriched in Russia, then returned to Iran for use in the country's reactors a compromise that would provide more oversight and ease tensions.

The objections center around the uranium enrichment issue. If Iran agreed not to enrich fuel on it's own, then the reactors could have a peaceful use. If they did built enrichment facilities, there is nothing to stop them from turning used fuel into nuclear weapons. They fact that they are not being cooperative about it is very suspicious.

 

That's a good point. If their intentions are exactly as they say they are, then why not reassure the rest of the anxious world by allowing a search? Because they're "tired of being under the world's thumb?" Bullshit. And America used nukes because Germany was extremely close to having developed their own. They also had many new missiles almost ready that would have devestated the allies. Desperate times called for desperate measures, bada bing bada BOOM! And Bush has said before that he believes Iran to be harboring terrorists, and even went so far as to add Iran to the big bad Axis of Evil list.

 

The russian proposal is a very good political maneuver to try and get Iran to play their hand. Either that, or Russia and Iran are being sneaky.

At best, Iran wants to use possible nuclear capabilty as a bargaining chip in global politics. The UN has to put its foot down or this is going to keep happening again and again with emerging countries. At worst, Iran wants nukes so they can blow israel off the map and start wwIII.

 

It's not any danger to the US, but it could be a danger to Israel.

Of course, all those Pakistani missiles on the Iranian border can already reach Israel, so if Bush does choose to open up the Armageddon option and the entire world decides to jump on board before there's nobody left, Israel will get nailed anyway.

 

There is the ancient arab custom of negotiation, where the price the seller names is never the price you really have to pay. Perhaps this is what the Iranians are doing, maintaining a bargaining position to get the best deal.

 

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spreading your propoganda again! you hate U.S so much (with no justification) that u want to see Iraq fail.

you should win a humanitarian award.

 

Aaaahhhh Brian....such a nice young Irish Muslim lad....got a lot of freinds there do ya?

 

by the way....did we ever figure out if the president of Iran really was one of the hostage takers in the 70's....kinda lost track of that one.

 

America nuked Japan because Germany was extremely close to developing their own?

Germany signed an unconditional surrender on May 8th, 1945.

The U.S. dropped the a-bombs on Japan on August 6th and 9th, 1945.

So because we're worried about Germany developing nukes, we decide to bomb Japan 3 months later after Germany's unconditional surrender?

Or do you mean Japan was close to finishing their own nuclear program?

- N

 

Then why does Britain with 2 thousands years of coal reserves and North Sea oil need nuclear power ?
Likewise oil rich Russia and America ?
Why is hydro resource rich New Zealand considering building 2 nuclear power stations ?
Simple its cheaper , cleaner and more efficient than oil fired power stations and besides when does Iranian oil run out ? 25 years to 40 years hardly an option for future planning .

What does it matter to you , you hate America and Europe as you told me you went to live in Thailand because of it . Seeing you opted for another life away from us in Asia I say mind your own business .

And what proof do you have of this ? Seeing no nation America included has actually accused Iran of having or wanting to build atomic weapons just they suppose of fears . Show me where Bush has outrightly said that Iran does have an Atomic weapons programme ?

Thats it mate ! You got it , Irish first

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what comes after doesnt matter

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and as for freinds Christ no not when I have sciforums !

 

As of 2002 the U.S. had 10,640 nuke warheads and the Russians 8,600.
Now as far as the Strategic Nuclear forces- 7600 warheads total yeild 1200 Megatons.

The Russians have (once again as of 2002) 5000 warheads in their Strategic Nuclear force with a yeild of 2135 Megatons.

So as of 2002 the Russians had less warheads but they were more powerfull (almost 2X as destructive). So pick you poison. Either way the world would be BBQd.

So as usual the "US has the most nukes" is misleading. As usual it comes down to Statistics and how you choose to use them.

 

Exactly, a major oil exporter is not exporting oil to US, after an invasion that wont be a problem any more, right.

 

U Damn Indians, U have Nukes , so shut up, If had U been under Nuke development with US knowing it, Your country would have been in shambles right now.

 

Obviously Russia wants to make money the fair way instead of an invasion, smart people.

 

with so much time on their hands, like north korea did, iran must be in the last phases of asembling their thousands of Nukes. After that USA will have no balls to talk of invasion. Iran will be the superpower of the new world order.

 

More important that Iraq failing is to stop a single drop of oil going out from Iraq to usa.