Is Abortion a right someone should have?

only if he is financialy and emotionaly capable of dealing with it
if the woman doesn't want the child then he is soley resposible for it

but on the other hand why force her to do something she does not want to do
don't let this baby, group of cells or whatever interfer with what is right

 

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That same requirement can be turned onto the women as well. Are you trying to say that women never abandon their children? It happens, lots of times, but it is irrelevent. If the man is there and not a dead-beat dad, than he has as much say as she does. If he wants the child but she doesn't, than he can take care of the child or the child can be put up for adoption.

 

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you forget 1 thing. teenage sex
what if the female doesn't want to give birth?
what if she doesn't even want to get pregnant but does?
adoption sounds so good, but i have heard some truly ugly things about it
no, a woman has a god given right to have an abortion, no if's and's or but's

you would have a different outlook if at 35 you had to have your dick cut off.

 

Right. Make the woman not only have to deal with the rape itself, but 9 months of a situation she never wanted to be in in the first place that will completely fuck her current life up. And while you’re at it call her a "dumb slut" for going and getting herself raped as well.
Nice.

I fail to see how ‘murdering’ a foetus that is merely a few weeks old is far worse than murdering a grown human being. A foetus has no idea it even exists, whereas an adult has experienced the world, emotions, senses, identity and awareness. They know what they have to lose. A foetus doesn’t even know it is a foetus.

Fine. If the woman does not want the child but is willing to go through the 9 months of pregnancy then let the father have the child. Problem is, a lot of men (and I know of many) who refuse to let their partners have an abortion because it's 'their child too’ end up leaving both the woman and the child, which they so desperately said they wanted, not long after the birth.

 

try watching a video of childbirth and see if your opinion doesn't change

if childbirth alternated between men and women i gaurentee you there would never be more than three children per couple

 

thats probably where a lot of people get hung up
they are so concerned about (insert phrase) that they are blinded to everything else

 

the nasty coat hanger revisited

 

Too true.
And some will try and do it themselves. My friend became pregnant at 14, but her parents refused to take her to the clinic to have the abortion she wanted, so she ended up trying to do it herself with a piece of wire. It wasn’t pretty. She fucked herself up completely, when she could have just had the abortion safely and cleanly.
There would be considerably more cases like that, and more people dying than just foetus’ if it were illegal.

 

you can't "murder" a fetus.
like james said abortions are going to happen
in back alleys with coat hangers
or in sanitary hospitals

it should also be stressed that abortion is not a cure for pregnancy

 

I don't see how this is a valid argument for why only women should have a say. No one knows why nature decreed that women will be the only one's who can have children, but that doesn't exclude the father from responsibility, compassion and love for the child or fetus, remorse and sadness after an abortion.

I agree with the first part. As for the "what if" scenario, adoption can remedy that. You folks might be getting annoyed by my insistence on adoption, but I am only matching your insistence on abortion. In my opinion, adoption > abortion, except in situations such as rape or incest. That is where your argument of making a women have an unwanted child is valid. To have to give birth to a child that was a result of rape or incest would be immoral.

And that does not answer my question in the slightest. If a pregnency is so unwanted, why wouldn't the consensual partners use both condoms and birth control pills? Too lazy?

Can't that same exact argument be used against abortion as well? Are you saying women who have abortions don't feel regret and loss as a result? If that argument can be used against adoption, can it not than be used against abortion? Adoption has all the emotional consequences of abortion, niether choice is free of emotional harm. The consequence of unprotected sex. However, to try and make the argument that adoption is somehow more emotionally damaging and more immoral than termination is futile because it's just not true!

In my opinion, that is really the only valid argument for abortion. What you say is 100% true, but this alone does not justify termination of a fetus that is not a result of rape or incest.

Call it what it is, a fetus. By law it is only a child after it has taken at least a single breath outside of the womb.

 

try shitting a watermelon then have someone tell you that you WILL shit another wether you want to or not

as for the second part, men are not nurturers by nature
and don't even begin to say what a woman feels about abortion unless you are one

 

what it is? untill that unbilical cord is cut it is like any other part of a womans body
you wouldn't deny a woman to have cancer excised would you?
and yes it is the same thing, why, because evolution is a fact thats why
how do you know that cancer would not devlop a brain?
of course it's far fetched but it serves the arguement

 

You are repeating the same argument that I, as well as numerous others, have already responded to. This is the last time I'll respond to it. Whether men are nurturers by nature or not (I don't see how that is relevent), they still feel regret, sadness, loss, and remorse for an abortion. Just because a man doesn't give birth to the child, he still helped create it so therefore he is emotionally attached.

 

I have no idea what you are talking about. Perhaps some sleep is in order, goodnight!

 

well hell
good night quarkmoon

 

One question I have - has the likelihood of a 'mistake' changed at all since the legalisation of abortion?

 

This may come as a surprise to you but women like sex too. A women could take a birth control pill just as easy as a man can put on a glove.

 

OKay, but women can take the blame for somethings you know....