Cure HIV and other viruses

Discussion in 'Biology & Genetics' started by insight1234, Dec 13, 2005.

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  3. Anomalous Banned Banned

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    who is the dude here ?
     
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  5. Ophiolite Valued Senior Member

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    You can make an important personal contribution to this. At a single stroke you can raise the average quality of the human race and reduce its quantity. Should we send flowers?
     
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    Are there any friendly viruses in our body?

    Well, yes, kind of. When viruses infect a cell the can exist in an active or dormant form. The standard human genome has quite a bit of DNA which seems to come from viruses (was trying to find a cite for this –anyone know the %?) But for scientist to start making something like that is tricky –look into gene therapy –and it causes a whole host of problems which would kill you quicker than HIV with therapy.
     
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    A boy from Scotland was found to be HIV positive but when he went back for a check up the virus had gone. I am not sure if he can still infect others but people who carry but do not die of the virus are vital in finding a cure. I imagine they are probably being tested right now.
     
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  10. qwerty mob Deicidal Registered Senior Member

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    The definitive etiology of "AIDS" is the suppression of T-cells, and I'm not convinced that "HIV" is the cause of AIDS, or rather- that AIDS is purely viral.

    The research of Dr. Peter Duesenberg is convincing.

    That's the real "conspiracy"...

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    Forget the "AIDS is HIV is a Biological Weapon" rhetoric; the Science ain't there.



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  11. Dr Lou Natic Unnecessary Surgeon Registered Senior Member

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    Yes, the least successfull. Those struggling the most to survive.

    Since when is natural selection about weeding out the stupid?
    The poor and downtrodden are perfect candidates to be taken out. It couldn't make more sense.
    Roll on!
     
  12. squishysponge Registered Senior Member

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    Yes there are people who can be infected with HIV but never or take an unnaturally long time to develop to AIDs. These people are called HIV non progressors. There are many theories as to why these people dont develop AIDs mind you HIV research changes all the time. Like all sciences, theories get thrown in and out all the time.

    It is presently believed that these people have genetic mutations in their genes that renders the ccr5 cytokine receptors on some of their macrophages ineffective and hense is the reason why HIV cannot invade their cells anymore after initial infection of other cells, and hense the body will maintain uninfected cells all the time and can fight off opportunistic infections whereas people with functional ccr5 receptors will have most of their hiv target cells infected.

    Another theory is that, and i dont quite remember exactly, there are more complicated immune system responses that our present day medical understanding cannot explain fully, that renders an equillibrium of immune cells in their bodies that allows them to continually fight off opportunistic infections and reason why they never get aids.

    Basically HIV science is not concrete yet because we as a human race simply dont understand enough of human physiology, immunolgy, chemistry, physics, biology and nano scale sciences, to be able to accurately determine the problem and solve it. If we could, hiv would not be a problem. But it is, its still very mysterious.
     
  13. WhisperBlade Registered Senior Member

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    I remember back in highschool, we learned that Bleach could kill HIV.

    I wonder if it would help if we drank bleach!

    Oooh... or eat Bleach pills!
     
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    Umm...HIV or human immuno deficiency virus is unlike any virus in the sence that it creates a shell out of the RNA of the cell it attacks, that is the T-cell, thus it is impossible to create a chemical as you had said, to inject a human with and destroy those HIV, simply because you will destroy T-cells RNA as well, why? because T-cells will let that chemical be absorbed. The only and the only way of battling with HIV as I see it now, is by creating nano-machines as small as the viruses themselves that can recognize by the shape and function this HIV and destroy them. And regarding your claim that you know of a potential HIV survivor, I have this to say, that person should be tested at least 1000 more times by different methods and different people, and that person could indeed not have HIV, just because there wasnt any in the first place and the first test that was done on that person was false, and another possibility is that the person's HIV went into a sleeping phase, where the HIV is undetectable but is just sitting there in the body and not hurting the t-cells, waiting until something triggers it to activate.
     
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    For an "intelligent community", I'm suprised how many people must have dropped out of school.
     
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    U noticed that too?
     
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    Oooohhhh, I just love it when the uber-intelligentsia drop by so that we may bask in their collective intellect and knowledge.

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  19. Azael Registered Senior Member

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    Derision and Snideness aside, with the internet at our fingertips, I don't see any excuse for not knowing what HIV is when it's the subject of a thread.

    And here's an emoticon so everyone can see how nice and friendly I am

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    P.S. Happeh: your agreence is the worst possible insult.
     
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    It is slightly worse if Bhudda1 also agrees. [Emoticon omitted so that casual readers, and those who are intellectually challenged, will be unable to determine whether I am being serious, humorous, sarcastic, ironic or just confused.]
     
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    Now let me crush all your hopes of an "HIV cured" agenda.

    Let me take you through the following steps of thinking:
    1. notice the site's name: FemalFirst.co.uk , noticed? do you agree that the site is geared towards women? do you also agree that women's interest in curing HIV is especially high, because of the abundance of HIV cases.
    2. notice the "tell em" button: the site has a function were you send these "wonderful" news to the people you know, now what type of people might be wanting to read this article? why, people with HIV of course, to feel relief that their day is saved.
    3. notice no year date: the article has Feb10 as a date, and no year, so if someone wanted to check what actually happened on that date in medicine, that discovery of the century, they wouldn't be able to, because there is no year.
    4. It could: notice the article stating the method that their chemical could block infection caused by HIV, now why is it that their article states that their chemical is obviously destroying HIV, and here they are saying that this chemical only could destroy HIV?
    5. Ok, and now the fun part, the experiment has been done in a test tube: There are lots of ways to kill HIV in a test tube... a drop of common household bleach will take care of that. Even exposure to oxygen will do the trick. Getting it expunged from the human body is another matter entirely I'm afraid. What's scary is that HIV "mutates" so fast and there are so many variations of HIV that by the time this chemical will enter the phase of mass production the HIV will "mutate"

    Still have hopes?
    Let me give you hopes...here's a site that tracks this chemical updates: http://www.csa54.info/
     
  22. qwerty mob Deicidal Registered Senior Member

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    HTLV-III is probably a benign passenger virus a few hundred years old. Even Robert Gallo admitted that his virus must have a helper virus (SSAV) or some other cofactor.

    Dr. Paul Duesberg on AIDS

    What Causes AIDS? (article )

    What is AIDS? (website )

    Exposing the AIDS Scam (essay )

    ...

    Heh, I remember when my detractors got angry with me when I told them that Len Horowitz and others were wrong. OH, but they had "proof" that AIDS was man-made AND a "biological weapon!"

    I told them they were full of shit, frankly, and that the real conspiracy was wasting taxpayer money on "cancer virus research" in the first place.

    AIDS is "man-made" alright... only it is contrived, not cultured.
     

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