Hi. The dead cannot experience time and space. Does this have any ramifications for physics in its quest for a GUT?
If all physicists were dead, then there would be no one to search for a GUT. Otherwise the existence of formerly living things has no effect on this search.
Wouldn't a GUT have something to say about the dead? In fact, isn't physics really about the dead anyway? When something dies it becomes inert and therefore exactly describable by physical laws. It is the presence of consciousness which is causing the problems that scientists are seeking to solve. The integration of universal forces which appear to be different from each other can only really take place upon death (the complete dissolution of consciousness).
"The integration of universal forces which appear to be different from each other can only really take place upon death (the complete dissolution of consciousness). " What the hell does this mean?????????????????????????????
you must first prove your assumption about the experiencing qualities of the dead. To start, I will ask you a starting question: how do you know the truth of the assumption? Geistkiesel
What I'm trying to say - perhaps rather awkwardly - is that the dead have achieved a complete unification with the world that is unavailable to the living. Whether something died 100 million years ago, yesterday or in 100 million years makes no difference. The dead are amassed together by their inability to experience time and space. Physics is a quest which requires us to draw closer to the dead.
first of all time does not exist, and as far as you or i know, when you die on earth your real life might begin somewhere else, (im not saying i believe this but im saying dont assume to much because to be honest we dont know anything about what happens when you die), peace.
The corpse rottens through time. =\ If you're talking about "soul" or whatever; yes, if "souls" would exist, it would change some stuff. But, it seems quite unlikely (if not impossible) that they do exist.
You make it sound as if the dead are some special type of matter. It's not the dead that are special it's LIFE. Everything's inherently dead, we're the exceptions, and we're only exceptions because we THINK we're exceptions...(We have an illogical superstition we call "soul", we're simply material objects which have the capability of processing information and a purpose of reproduction)
But if everything's inherently dead how could life have emerged in the first place? Or are you saying that we are really dead - we only 'think' we are alive? Take two physicists, A and B. All their lives they interact with each other (emotionally/intellectually) until the eventual death of physicist B. The event of death means that for physicist B time and space no longer exist. As far as physicist A is concerned, B has vanished, only a body remains. Physicist A applies all his knowledge to discover the whereabouts of B, but discovers that his knowledge is limited to a description of things which exist within time and space. Physicist A discovers that his memories are the only tangible evidence he has that B ever existed. Shortly after this physicist A dies. Q) Physicists A and B now occupy and region of zero space and zero time. In effect, they have entered a kind of singularity through which the laws of physics cannot operate. What then can be devised to penetrate this region?
Right. Too bad physicists A and B don't exist anymore since they are dead. They're "minds" are dead. They don't exist anymore.
Very well. But: A) Having a mind is not a requirement of being alive. Most things which live on earth do not possess a 'mind'. B) The dead are part of our universe. Unless you believe we possess some kind of supernatural 'soul' which travels elsewhere upon death then the dead exist. (A quick trip to a graveyard might convince you)
No. GUTs involve unification of the fundamental forces of the physical universe. They are not concerned with biological issues.
Thanks. But it is biological structures which which are attempting the unification. Biology is living. If, however, you are suggesting that fundamental forces are dead forces then I agree with you. Physics is really concerned with the dead. This is why the personality must be stripped away in scientific research. The more we subtract from our psyche, the closer we are to the dead.
Yes. So? No. Forces are not biological. Describing a force as "dead" is like describing a rock as "dead". "Dead" implies previous life. Rocks were never alive in the first place, and neither were forces. No. The laws of physics apply equally to living and dead and non-living things.
Our senses - upon which 'science' is entirely dependent - are biological structures, ie, they are organic. Our 'hardest' sciences are only the product of these structures, ie, they WILL die. 'Forces' only exist in the perception of living things. Rocks can be eroded and enter the food chain. All inanimate objects have the potential to become animated. The dead are blind to all the perceptions of living things. All our perceptions terminate in death. Gravity will die with us (not as individuals or as a species - but as part of life across the entire cosmos).
