why "Fuck" is dirty.

Discussion in 'Free Thoughts' started by Semon, Dec 31, 2005.

  1. Hapsburg Hellenistic polytheist Valued Senior Member

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    Well, "You're a really big moron" doesn't have as much emphasis as "You're a fucking moron", now does it? See, the regular superlatives that you can use are too everyday, normal, bread'n'butter words to me...but "fuck" is a really powerful word. It really adds massive emphasis to a word or phrase.
    Also, "fuck" can be a noun:
    "That dumb son-of-a-fuck!" or "That dumbfuck!" or "You fucktard!"
    An adjective:
    "That fucking asshole!" or "You fucking 'tard!"
    A verb:
    "I'ma gonna fuck you up!" or "I'll fuck her soon enough" or "Fuck you!"
    Other uses:
    "This shit's fucked up!" or "We're fucked!"
     
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  3. Killjoy Propelling The Farce!! Valued Senior Member

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    Yeah, yeah...

    I'm hip, man...

    powerful, see...

    massive emphasis, I tell ya...

    Spoken like the fuckin' indubitable grand fuckin' fucktarded fuckbrained fuckity-fuckaddled fuckbubble master fucktater fuckup of fuckin' morons.

    I fuckin' salute you, your fuckwitted fuckin' fuckeduppedness !

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  5. android nothing human inside Registered Senior Member

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    Fuck Jesus Christ
    Fuck Mary
    Fuck the Vatican
    Fuck the President
    Fuck Me
    Fuck You
     
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  7. Billy T Use Sugar Cane Alcohol car Fuel Valued Senior Member

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    I agree, but you missed my point, which was words with little intrinsic emotional value will not do. You need to "borrow the emotional" inherent in the word to make stronger whatever you are saying by adding an emotion charged adjective or adverb even though it makes no semantic sense. "Fuck" is clearly at the top of the list, at least for Americans. Perhaps "Bloody" is equally strong for the Brits. After that, comes "death" (as in "dead right") then "smash" (as in smashing show or "a big smash") My post was not disputing Fuck's first place status, only trying to explain why we use the words we do, which generally have no semantic value, (in these applications). Again - you missed my point.
     
  8. Huwy Secular Humanist Registered Senior Member

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    I think fuck has been given such a high status not just because of its meaning but because of its awesome sound.
    Think about it.
     
  9. RickyH Valued Senior Member

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    There is nothing wrong with the word "fuck" rather then society saying its bad. In my opinion "fuck" is probably the best word ever created, such controversy in it, but at the same time is can be usd in about every context.... i have a great video on it as well lol http://www.ebaumsworld.com/f-word.html
     
  10. Dinosaur Rational Skeptic Valued Senior Member

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    Many in our USA culture seem to overreact to vulgar words. 50 or more years ago there were those who would oust a person from their circle of friends for using a word like f**k. It is still considered at best bad manners to use it in some contexts.

    The USA culture still overreacts to nudity in movies and other contexts.

    Vulgarity to me, only suggests a poor vocabulary, a lack of education, and/or a lack of intelligence. It is the same as my reaction to the use of various words which are not considered vulgar.
    • I was like going to study, but I like got to you know thinking about like getting a you know pizza, and I like called in the you know order, and like forgot about the you know homework. It was like my hunger was you know more important than the home work.
    An intelligent person who was lazy, would say “I decided to get a pizza instead of doing my homework.”

    It seems to me that people who do not have good verbal skills need to say essentially meaningless words in order to give them time to think of the meaningful words they want to use.

    I was always impressed with certain Arabic cultures who made cursing an art. On a visit to Egypt, an Englishman who could speak Arabic translated some delightful curses for me.
    • My all of your sons be sterile and may all of your daughters give birth to the offspring of syphilitic camels who are both poor and ugly.

      May you be afflicted with an agonizing disease which causes all but two of you teeth to slowly rot away, and may the two remaining teeth not meet.

      May your pubic hair grow until it drags on the ground behind you and may all who notice step on it as you hurry to do your nefarious deeds.
    To me the above are more impressive that saying “You are a f**king idiot!” or “I f**king hate you!”
     
  11. wesmorris Nerd Overlord - we(s):1 of N Valued Senior Member

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    Dino, that's like, a totally awesome curse, OMFG.

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  12. Communist Hamster Cricetulus griseus leninus Valued Senior Member

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    Wow, I'm learnign some of those arabic curses!
     
  13. Hapsburg Hellenistic polytheist Valued Senior Member

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    Precisely what he said. I forgot what site that video was from...
    Anyway...if you think "fuck" is a bad or retarded word, then shut the fuck up and don't say "fuck". If you don't like to hear "fuck", then fuck off and go to some moralistic bullshit christian website or something retarded like that.
     
  14. poliwog Registered Senior Member

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    My mom told me this, it means

    Fornicating
    Under
    Consent of the
    King

    it was from the middle ages when you had to have the king's permission to wed. On the honeymoon night they would hang signs off their door knobs that said, "f.u.c.k"
     
  15. poliwog Registered Senior Member

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    Also, there is this place, www.howstuffworks.com if you go to "people stuff" it has a few pages on how swearing works.

    I know that using "fuck" casually too often can make you sound uneducated, but does it do the same thing in the context of a fit of pure rage?

    P.S. Huwy- I agree, it sounds awsome. They should change it from a swear to an ononomatomania just because it has such a cool phonetic pronunciation.
     
  16. QuarkMoon I Registered Senior Member

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    Dude, fuck this shit. :m:
     
  17. Billy T Use Sugar Cane Alcohol car Fuel Valued Senior Member

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    • I thank Dinosaur. Like him, in my only prior post here, I tried to introduce some intelligent comments in a thread totally lacking any. With this post, I will try, intentionally, to hi-jack the thread.

      Instead of making short posts that include "fuck" lets try to
      (1) either follow the Arab’s with more creative curses or
      (2) contribute interesting analogies, comparisons, syllogisms, etc.

      For the second group, I give one prescription of how you can accomplish this (Other procedural suggestions would be most welcome):

      Steal a trite expression or example, and then re-invent its concept.

      For example, and in keeping with the low level of this thread, many have heard:
      "As useful as tits on an nun for fun."

      Which I now transform to:
      "As useful as fire for drying ice cubes."

      I admit, that without the sexual content of the original, (something I discussed in my prior post) this lacks the punch of the original. This fact prompts my second general prescription or guiding rule:

      Make reference to base bodily functions, or disgusting situations. (Anything with intrinsic emotional impact - as discussed in my first post.)

      If you put your mind to it (Assuming your's is greater than a pigion's, which for some posting here, I doubt.) I am sure you can do better. I was only trying to illustrate the idea.

      SUMMARY:
      Show some intelligence and creativity.

      Any idiot (with computer connected) can post:
      “Shit, you fucking piss hog.” etc.
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      PS to Poliwog: Thanks for your reference. You show some promise. I think your mom is wrong, but with a mom like that, I think you should listen to her I.e. do you homework on time, work hard, keep you noise clean, at least for a few years, etc.
     
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  18. Communist Hamster Cricetulus griseus leninus Valued Senior Member

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    This thread is not meant to be serious.
     
  19. Hapsburg Hellenistic polytheist Valued Senior Member

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    That, young lad, is an urban legend.
     
  20. antony Registered Senior Member

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    I don't know if people who swear a lot lack intelligence or are simply lazy. In my opinion, swearing rarely adds anything to a conversation, indeed it usually seems to dilute the actual potency rather than enhance it. That is not to say that the odd four-letter word is not useful at times, but the amount it's used in everyday speech (and films etc) is a sad indication of the state of the English language.
     
  21. allisone417 i'll be in my room Registered Senior Member

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    I thought it came from German "fricken," to strike...
    Monty Python dare steer me wrong??
     
  22. QuarkMoon I Registered Senior Member

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    Monty Python is never wrong. You should be ashamed of yourself.

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  23. Quigly ......................... ..... Registered Senior Member

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    I would say that it takes more wit and self discipline to not swear than to let loose the tongue so they say. Nothing worse or less professional when talking to somebody who can't have a decent conversation with constantly "cursing". I would equate it as the other person did to somebody who would constantly say "like" in every sentence. Neither appealing or intelligent in my opinion.
     

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