What is evil

Discussion in 'Ethics, Morality, & Justice' started by Enigma'07, Dec 14, 2005.

  1. Enigma'07 Who turned out the lights?!?! Registered Senior Member

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    One might say it is wrong (evil) to lie, steal, kill, etc. but from an evolutionary perspective, that is all a good thing

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  3. Oxygen One Hissy Kitty Registered Senior Member

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    First you need to separate "wrong" from "evil". "Wrong" is strictly a localized definition. In my house, it's wrong to knock on the bathroom door to ask the occupant a question (unless it's really really urgent). We just respect that sort of privacy. My neighbor, however, sees nothing wrong with knocking on the bathroom door and asking if you want a sandwich.
     
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  5. Non-Logical-Idea-Guy Fat people can't smile. Registered Senior Member

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    the question you should be asking here really is WHO said wrong and right, then u can define the "formula" for wrong and right
     
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  7. RoyLennigan Registered Senior Member

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    evil only has connotation when speaking of human actions. evil is basically anything that causes harm to humanity, or any part of it. Most people have a mind centered on what is good for the community. This is because whatever is best for the community, usually helps for the survival of everyone.

    some animals have more basic versions of this morality, such as meercats or apes, or other pack/communal animals. They know what is good for the community because of adaptation to their environment (those that didn't, died out). These animals, as we have, have found that working together, they are more likely to survive.

    it is not a good thing to lie, steal, kill, etc, unless you are working alone and are able to survive that way. Still, it is only a good thing from your perspective.
     
  8. Cottontop3000 Death Beckoned Registered Senior Member

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    Personally, I think the concept of evil is an old, destructive creation of early man that some deluded, scared moron thought up to help him feel better about his weak, puny self. It caught on. Imagine that.
     
  9. Oxygen One Hissy Kitty Registered Senior Member

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    I think "evil" is more defined by motive. Providing for needy children can be seen as a good thing. Providing for needy children so they'll grow up and become your unquestioning minions carrying out your megalomaniacal plots can be seen as "evil" (and is probably on the To-Do list of some of the users of this board).
     
  10. Cottontop3000 Death Beckoned Registered Senior Member

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    I find that quite funny. Anyone in particular?
     
  11. vslayer Registered Senior Member

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    evil is when you deliberately commit acts that according to your morals and beleifs, is wrong.
     
  12. duendy Registered Senior Member

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    there is an awful 'fad' going round in the UK amongst some youth called 'Happy Slappin''.....what they do is find some victim on the street, and then attack them severly, eve killingthem,an this is filmed on a moblie which they will later look at and show others for a 'laugh'.......

    I hae read about terrible outcomes of this evil rime. example, a man had been out for the night. missed last bus so he went to sleep on the street--as he was drunk. two young lads see him and set him on fire and film it!...the man has survived but his injuries are horrendous

    In th paper today http://www.mirror.co.uk
    about this gang of 4 youths including 15 year old girl justrandomly picked on tis man--a barman, and beat him to death on the street. the girl is seen kicking the unconscious man's head --whilst he's unconscious--like a footbal several times.

    Isn't this evil?

    some say eg., 'they behavelike animals'....well animals dont kill for fun and film it.
    what i see it as is mechanical. it is evil that is devoid of natrual feeling. it is like the evil at the top, where immorality is the religion. it is EVIL! seeing sometingas evil doesn't have to mean your turnin Christian. i dont mean it tha evil is stasis. i mean it that it is astate devoid of human feeling
     
  13. Oxygen One Hissy Kitty Registered Senior Member

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    Cottontop- Nobody in particular, but one former user, dexter is probably the kind of up-and-coming evil overlord who would build up his minions, have them carry out his dirty deeds, then destroy them all and get new ones before the old ones got too powerful and tried to challenge him

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    . Pretty ambitious for a 15 year old (his age when I last talked to him). Fortunately for the free world, he's been distracted by girls and a shot at the Olympic ski team. I told him to let me know if he made it, because then I'd actually watch the games, but I made him promise to blow something up just to prove he was actually there. Maybe my inner-evil overlord just wants to see him arrested and taken out of the world-domination race!

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    duendy Maybe the UK government ought to round them up in batches, put them in a big octagonal cage and have them slap each other to death, putting it on pay-per-view and using the proceeds to help the victims' families. The winner gets to live, but he goes on exhibit in a special part of the zoo where for a donation (also going to the victims' families), visitors can buy a bag of rotten vegetables to throw at him/her. A larger donation would get you access to a small catapult, a shovel, and a pile of gorilla dung. The asshole, of course, would have boxing gloves fixed permanently to his hands so he couldn't throw anything back at the crowd.
     
  14. duendy Registered Senior Member

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    would love to see the evil fukers who dd the latest 'happy slappin' murder...FIRST...put in stocks and have the community throw all kinds of shit at tem so as yo utterly humiliate them....then the birch. and then bang them up.

    after solitary confinement i would have them meet te parents and friends of thier victim.

    but as well as this put all passion into defying the evil fukin culture whic breeds this evil

    what do you think? and if you disagree and accept tat there are evil acts. what would you do to repond to them? differnt than present system...orr?
     
  15. Oxygen One Hissy Kitty Registered Senior Member

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    I'm a fan of letting the punishment fit the crime. It's got it's flaws, but I recall a story about a judge who sentenced a convicted burglar to having the people he'd stolen from go through his house and take what they wanted while he had to stand there and watch. Basically, the people just took things that had been stolen from them. The guy who lost his VCR to the burglar took the criminal's VCR. The guy who lost his TV and stereo took the criminal's TV and stereo. Even when they were told they could have anything they wanted, they still just took what they had lost to this guy. Kitchen appliances, small electronics, all of it walked right out his front door. Of course he was pouting that it wasn't right because he had legitmately bought all that stuff. Some people (who apparently have never been burglarized) screamed that it wasn't the right thing to do. Apparently jail hadn't worked for this guy three times before, but this treatment did the trick. He was never hauled in for anything again.
     
  16. Bowser Namaste Valued Senior Member

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    I think that if it feels wrong then it must be wrong. There is no greater authority than that which comes from within. The mind can make judgements but in the end it falls on the heart to follow through with action.

    On the other hand, lack of judgement can be our undoing...
     
  17. TheAlphaWolf Registered Senior Member

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    and why does it feel wrong? because your parents taught you to. Look at a little kid... they don't think ANYTHING is wrong until the parents teach them that it's wrong.

    my view on this is... something that causes harm-evil. something that makes you feel good, whatever- good. It's as simple as that.
    Murderers, rapists, envy, selfishness, etc.- cause harm- evil.
    charities, love, harmony, blah blah- makes things better- good.

    of course, things that aren't harmful have been labeled as evil, and vise versa but that's because of ignorance (fear of the unknown and others), stereotypes/generalization, selfishness, and whatnot.
    like fear of bats, moths, snakes, masturbation, homosexuals, different races, etc.
     
  18. Qorl Guest

    Don't do something that you will not do to yourself.
     
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  19. genep Guest

    "In the Beginning was the word."
    "Evil" is just a word like "god, devil, good" .. no more and no less.

    Anything that makes one word different from another is the mind, which is the Supreme Comedy that the word "god" needs to be different from other words as long as the word devil is around to make it, god, appear real.
     
  20. Lord_Phoenix New World Order Registered Senior Member

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    There is no such thing as evil. You can create a beneficial change for few people by doing these "good" things. However, at the same time you maybe doing something detrimental to other few people. So, it all depends are perspectives on how these actions affect you. This is why the concept of heaven and hell do not work. Because how can god judge your actions when any action can create both "good" and "evil" things around the world.
     
  21. Buddha1 Registered Senior Member

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    Ever heard someone say, God is one and that is my god. And it orders everybody to do this and that, otherwise they would be killed --- well that is evil. Even ancient mythologies talk about such evil forces.
     
  22. Bowser Namaste Valued Senior Member

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    Does God love the rabbit or the fox who has just swallowed the rabbit?
     
  23. Baron Max Registered Senior Member

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    God gave the rabbit and the fox free will, so now He just sits up there on His cloud and watches the shows ...and drinks mint juleps!

    Baron Max
     

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