A lot of good it does banning you Kiwi. You just come back under your Tali75 name. Do you really think I am as Hateful as you?
After the Reformation Martin Luther the first high ranking official in centuries to evoke the Vatican was the forbearer to the Lutheran church and the protestant church soon followed. Who ever said northern Germany is correct, seeing how Austria was apart of the "counter-reform" from Hapsburg on down dominated by Catholicism. Some Historians saw this as the reason Hitler did not savage the English and the other celtic Brits when given the opportunity as they did the French. I’m sure Churchill was grateful
This thread is obviously in response to Charachteristic of ISLAMic SICK rape on this forum. Since all rape is pretty obviously sick, do you really feel the need to descend to the level of the poster of that other thread and pretend it's something that only happens in certain groups?
Yes I do. No. I'm only in high school. I did take a german class last year, though, and I learned quite a bit about German culture as well as the language. That's odd. I thought the Rhine region would be mostly catholic, especially the Pfalz part, as that was owned by Bavaria since the 1770s. I know that Swabia (Baden-Wurttemburg) is also mostly catholic, like Bavaria. I guess it's probably because a lot of people live in Berlin and northern germany, higher population density, and NG is nominally protestant...
Nope, Martin Luther was from around this area and I guess that converted a lot of people. I wouldn't know. All I know is that everyone is prodestant here. Oh cool your in high school! Me too!
Zephyr, Actually "Charachteristic of ISLAMic SICK rape" was a response to this thread. This thread was a response to all the other Islamics are rapists threads. My title was the only thing hateful about this thread and my title was just a parody of the other threads. The thread starting first post did not mention the word Christian. Yes, all rape is sick. I figured a little education on rape in general can't hurt. But Kiwi didn't see the difference. I think Kiwi really believed I was attacking Christians. I wasn't attacking Christians but I was sort of attacking Kiwi and people who think like Kiwi. I don't even hate them; I just don't like what they are doing and I like to poke holes in their games. I never noticed Happeh-ness. Sometimes I don't even notice my PMs.
Sorry, I suppose I should've checked the dates. So I see, I'd forgotten all about that Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image!
Happeh pisses me off. He's stolen the first three letters of my username...and that gets confusing when someone calls me(or him) "haps"... Bastard.
Yeah, that's definitely a major concern for the World Events forum! I'm sure that the UN security council will have a major discussion of that issue at their very next meeting. I mean ...Hap being pissed off is of much more concern than all of the murders going on in central Africa or in southeast Asia. Baron Max
Nirakar, If the title wasn't meant to be inflammatory, then it seems to have fallen short of its target. In any event, given the overt scriptural objectification and exploitation of women in the Quran (4:11; 4:34; and all the comments about women "taken by the right hand", to say nothing of the old rub about the virgins and pearl-skinned boys in heaven), I don't see how your complaint against the other posters is warranted. There seems little doubt that islam is more inherently anti-woman than any other religion. Imagine a legal system based off a religion that says four witnesses are required to prove rape (which seems more than a little unlikely to me) and where women have half the testimonial value of men. Throw in overtones of religiously ascribed inferiority towards women (brought up, incidentally, by every muslim I've ever known: "women and men are <i>different</i>, Geoff, they have different roles" etc etc <i>ad nauseum</i>), the overt sexual overtones of this 'prophet's' dealings with women (one of whom was made his wife at the age of six, consumated when she was nine) and a reactionary attitude towards minorities and you end up with a patriarchal society with extremis tendencies towards vocal females. Ayaan Hirsi Ali figures that something like 80% of all Pakistani women are sexually assaulted by family members. Of course, it's a little hard to collect the stats with the "four witnesses only, please, we're muslim" modus legalis of Saudi Arabia, Pakistan and about everywhere else. Is this really your argument - that women's rights are so strongly entrenched in islam and not elsewhere? Geoff
GeoffP, the title was ment to be both inflamatory and absurd. Have a look at threads started by Kiwi123 and VincentUK. This thread was meant to be a parody of the threads that they start. They post infamatory thread after inflamatory thread because they want to inflame us against Islam. Inflaming the non-Islamic world against Islam would be a big mistake in my opinion. I lived in India for a year. Because of that I recongnize something in the Pakistani attitudes that has as much to do with regional cultural attitudes as it does to do with Islam. Rape is everywhere. The attempt to make rape in Australia look like a problem with Islam is bigottry. In my opinion every second man would rape if he could find an excuse to justify the behavior to himself and if he knew he would not be prosecuted. I really am not interested in defending Islam or Pakistani and Saudi culture. They are in many ways wrong. But the culture of bigottry that Vincent and Kiwi would like to spread is also wrong. I see no danger of Saudi and Pakistani culture spreading outside of the Isamic world. I do see a danger of the culture of bigottry spreading. That is why on this forum I choose to oppose the Islam bashers.
I think islam has done a good job of it all by itself, thank you very much I know you don't mean me, since I think that people should integrate into the society they immigrate to; not saying that you need to become "french" or "american", just that if you are going to live there, learn its laws, rules, language, history join its military, schools, colleges, societies, unions, political parties celebrate your past, like the Irish, Italians, Scots, Swedes do here, don't live in a self-imposed "ghetto" of your own making ask yourself & answer, "why did you move there in the first place?" is it better than my old homeland? & am I willing to defend & die for my new homeland? get the picture?
This is a clear lie. Can ANYONE point out ANY rape ANYWHERE that a white man raped a women of "color"? Today's news: http://www.wavy.com/Global/story.asp?S=4273306
JB, they way you edited the words I pasted from a website makes it appear said something that the website and I never said. Here is what it said, "90% of all rapes are intra-racial (assailant and victim of same race) the 10% that are inter-racial (assailant and victim of different race), rapes are mostly committed by white men against women of color. (1)" Your link is just an one case. Android did better. Part of the above statement could be translated to 5.1% or more of American rapes are by white men to Asian American, Latina American, African American, Native American, and mixed race American Women. The other part is about the number of women being raped by colored people not of their race being less than 4.9% of rapes. I would have expected a higher number. Android thinks the data used is old data and he may be right.
All I'm asking from anyone is to provide ONE case where a white man raped a black woman. The common opinion about the danger of rape is not prejudice; it is reality. Every year there are about 15,000 black-on-white rapes, but fewer than 900 white-on-black rapes. Each year there are 3,000 gang rapes of whites by blacks and too few white gang rapes of blacks to show up in the statistics. http://suppressednews.com/mynews/news/EEkllkZVyyrIwZRWcW.shtml And yes, everyone's suspicions about rape are correct: Every year there are about 15,000 black-on-white rapes but fewer than 900 white-on-black rapes. There are more than 3,000 gang rapes of whites by blacks—but white-on-black gang rapes are so rare they do not even show up in the statistics. http://www.vdare.com/taylor/050913_crime.htm According to US Department of Justice statistics 700,000 black on white felonies are committed each year in the United States, representing 85% of felony encounters between blacks and whites during crime acts. Rape statistics reveal that black-on-white rapes occur at least 15 times more frequently than white on black. http://eaif.org/121105p11.htm
I didn't read all this... but chances are, if they're a rapist, they're probably not (genuine) christians.
so ahh what kind of rights do women have in christianity? what should i make of this?? Numbers 27:1-11 .....Moses brought their case before the LORD. And the LORD spoke to Moses, saying: The daughters of Zelophehad are right in what they are saying; you shall indeed let them possess an inheritance among their father's brothers and pass the inheritance of their father on to them. You shall also say to the Israelites, "If a man dies, and has no son, then you shall pass his inheritance on to his daughter. If he has no daughter, then you shall give his inheritance to his brothers. If he has no brothers, then you shall give his inheritance to his father's brothers. And if his father has no brothers, then you shall give his inheritance to the nearest kinsman of his clan, and he shall possess it. It shall be for the Israelites a statute and ordinance, as the LORD commanded Moses." uhh if son is present, he gets all?
diff societies have diff rules for inheritance, people from Spain at one time gave inheritance only to firstborn son, that's why they made such greedy conquistadors during the conquest of the New World, it was their only way of getting any inheritance, by stealing it from others.
