Banshee, It was not the Love of God that caused Holy Wars, but our ignorance about it. The Bible says clearly: Love your enemies. And still those proclaimed "Christians" killed in the name of Jesus. Poor Jesus... he died for us and still is ignored... And all the other wise that died shouting Love and Compassion to people... Whatever... If I continue like that, I shall be one of them... Love, Nelson
Love and compassion are in you, it's up to any human him/herself to give love and compassion to others. It's not something which is told to you by a book. It's an Inner Self 'thing'. Up to every human to develop those feelings and spread them to other people. A plain look at humans gives the 'image' that the so called god and the devil are in you yourself and every other human being. It is a pity a lot of humans give in more to their colder side then their warm, loving and caring feelings. Love and Light to you Nelson... Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image!
Banshee, Agree... Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image! Well... the Book of Love talks about it... But I allways say that it's not from the Book, I say that the Word of God is in my Heart. I'm Christian since some months ago... and look how much I understand about it. I knew it before, because it was IN my Heart, it has allways been there and it will allways be. It's in the Hearts of all people. But many people, if not most, can't see it in their Hearts. That's why God "wrote" the Bible, to help us to see our Hearts with more clarity. The Truth is not without... the Truth is within! The Bible itself says it. The Bible says that we have to believe with our Hearts. The Bible says that we have to understand with our Hearts. The Bible says that we have to act with our Hearts. Our Hearts is our Essence. That's the message of the Bible: you empower yourself when you belive in your Love. Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image! Love, Nelson
Originally posted by TruthSeeker *The Truth is not without... the Truth is within!* Yes, within every humans heart! Don't need a book, written by a monk!, to tell me that. Just listen to your Inner Self. Up to every human being how to handle this. I quit with this. I am sorry. I do agree with your kind of view, not with what is written in the bible. There is too much hurt done to humans feelings because of its interpretation...
Banshee, Yeah... unfortunatly, yes... But it's just a misinterpretation... it's not that the Bible is wrong... is that "we" can't intepret it right... Love, Nelson
And it's that sentance that makes religion a pitiful thing. You claim that the people who cause war are interputting it wrong. They claim you are wrong. More people claim both of you are wrong. Everyone has different views. It's interputive, that leaves it very open to detrimental interputations. Anyone else here from Toronto?
TruthSeeker...Sigh!!! Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image! The discussion is about LOVE, not WAR! Please, sow your seeds of love without religious babbling...Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image!
Banshee, I can't do nothing if he prefers to talk about war. We can choose between light and darkness... But I don't understand why they continue choosing darkness... I'm doing the best I can to preach Love here... I can do nothing if they close their eyes to it... Love, Nelson
No, Truthseeker, what you're preaching is Love on the basis of the Christian God. What we, as individuals, understand is that love does not only exist from your belief higher being. We as people have decided for whatever reason not to believe in something based on zero proof, so incidentally, we beleive that love can come from within a person's own mind and that a more powerful, all-loving (yet one who does nothing about his love) God is not necessary for love.
Yes love comes from within us, ourselves. You can chose to give love or you can with hold it and grow older and colder, til you are too sour and bitter to ever find love within yourself back again...
Tyler, Mind!?!? Mind is cold!! Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image! Heart is warm... Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image! No... you don't understand the concept... Love IS God. And Love comes from our Hearts, from our Essence, not from our minds... Your "love" is imperfect and makes you suffer (I'm generalizing) because it comes from the mind. But the Love that comes from the Heart, from our Essence, is Perfect, Unlimited, Wise, Timeless, Unconditional, Impersonal, Almighty... It's your Light, it is YOU, your true you. Love, Nelson
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My 'imperfect' love makes me suffer how? Because I don't have the honour of putting my faith and purpose of being in the hands of another? Because I can rely on my self and the other people around me for love instead of a unproven higher being? And what the hell do you mean by differing love from the mind with love from the heart? Are you implying that your heart, the muscle that creates blood flow, somehow creates the emotion of love?
Tyler... From the Heart... from your Essence... your True Self... the core of your being... Banshee understood perfectly... why can't you? Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image! Love, Nelson
Unconditional love = Love given out entirely without being judgemental Ha~~~ Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image! Cheerio, The Fox Lady
Truthseeker, now you sound like an idiot. From my 'true self'?? I'm contimplating drilling a hole through my skull with a very dull screw driver this is such a stupid comment. Your 'inner self' or 'true essense' or whatever the hell else you want to call it is STILL FROM YOUR MIND!!!!!!
Tyler, How many times I have to shake you... Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image!? Nope. Your mind is not perfect. But your Heart is. Ok... now you are saying that Love comes from the mind. Do you believe that? Because then, your "love" is imperfect. I meant that you have to rediscover yourself. Shut up your mind. Sit relaxed. Enjoy the moment. Feel Nature... that's a good way. See and feel what's beautiful for you. Here is an assignment for you. In your next holidays, go to the most beautiful place you can imagine and be in contact with Nature. Breath pure air and relax your mind. Once you have a relax state of mind, you will become more aware. There is a little voice inside you trying to tell you something important, but your mind hide it because it's allways so loudly speaking. Once you get in touch with Nature and see beauty outside you, you'll find beauty within you. That's your Love. You ARE Love. Your real you is perfect... Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image! I'll continue later... with there's more to say. Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image! Can't talk anymore now... Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image! Love, Nelson
Perhaps if I pose it this way: Describe it chemically/anatomically on how my heart, the chambered muscular organ in my chest that pumps blood throughout my body, is the source of love. If you are talking about the metaphoric heart (as in "I love you from the bottom of my heart") - the emotions felt are still created through the brain!!! If you are talking about my 'soul' or some other religious mumbo jumbo with no proof to back it, then I say just that, prove it. I'm guessing you'll say something like 'I can't prove it, I just know it. I know truth' Well, I have two things to say. One, every Muslim, Christian, Catholic, Jew, Hindu, etc. feels that. Two, deep in the bottom of my 'heart' I KNOW that on Pluto, in the very centre of the planet, exists an eight eyed, invisible, winged, giraffe-rhino. Does that mean it's real?
Tyler, Ok... specifically... Yes... it's metaphoric... but not this chemical love. I was talking about your Essence, the core of your being... I was talking about yourself without all your experiences. Your true self. You are molded by your experinces. Your beliefs are all based on your experiences... agree with me? Ok... I was talking about your Real you, buried below all those experiences. Reminding your childhood, for example, is a good way to remember yourself. How did you Love when you were a child? How did you feel? If you can remember that, perhaps you can remember Yourself... Love, Nelson
