I get it. So something supreme judges and specialists in the field can't agree upon is clear to you? Because you say so I have to believe it? Sorry, but I am not a very religious man.
Interesting idea. But, no, the firearms strategy is better. Now, go get yourself a good rifle. A 30 cal. will do. Then start practicing. Tom Jefferson would be proud of you.
This new revolutionary army got me to thinking. Being as I'm a veteran of military service, I figger that I outrank you, Private Monkey. Now, if you ever contort and convolute a simple premise ever again, I'll have you scrubbing the shitters with a tooth brush.
You don't have to believe it because I say so, Private Monkey. Do a little research. Read what the guys, Jefferson, Madison, et al, had to say. Then, tell us what you think they meant. No liberty for you today, Private. Report to the Company head at 1900 hours. Bring a tooth brush.
Well, I was only a private, but military rank doesn't count in a militia. And if you are right and militia is people than rank means even less. I'm not going to do some research. It's obvious to me that this isn't going to solve anything. The 2nd is an ambiguous statement. They probably did that on purpose being politicians and all.
...LOL! Even in young, junior high school football and basketball teams, they have a "rank", for god's sake, even if it's only something like "pecking order"! Ye're funny, Spurious, I would have thought that you'd already been "out in the world" longer than that?? Are you just a kid? No work experience? Can you actually envision a group of fighting men, a militia, where they're all of equal rank, with no superior officers, etc? Can you actually envision that? Baron Max
And I've read it again, and I guess I still miss the meaning. Care to explain, or would you like to keep me ignorant for the remaining few years of my life? Baron Max
Rank in the military is assigned. A military rank in civilian life means absolutely nothing. They have nothing to do with each other. You must know that now that your rank has dissipated into nothingness being a civilian again. I held the rank of private in the army. In civilian life I am a staff member of a university. I do not have to take orders though. i know this because I refused an order twice when I was in the army. Both times it had consequences. In my current life it hasn't. So I am quite sure rank in the army and pecking order in civilian life are two different things. If you would try to peck me I would kick your ass. If we would be in the army i would have to secretly plot to kick your ass. And make sure nobody found out I kicked your ass. clear now? Not that this all has ANYTHING to do with the topic at hand. But that is what happens when people like to confuse the situation.
Interesting. You don't have any bosses? None? I didn't know that there was such a thing, even in civilian life ...and I owned my own company! Baron Max
You can say fuck off to a civilian boss and leave. Try to do that in the military. As I have explained I did that twice. It didn't go down well. So I am assuming you never had any military experience otherwise you would know the difference.
You can say "fuck off" to a superior officer in the military, too. Sure there are consequences to suffer, but so, too, there are consequences in civilian life. If you say "fuck off" and walk away, it won't be long before you'll never have another job! Ye're just spouting "idealism" now, even tho' you know, for sure, the realities of the situation. But that's okay, I'm used to people spouting "idealism" at me. Baron Max
Red herring. Correlation, not causation. Crime dropped everywhere, of all kinds, regardless of whether there were gun control laws or not!
Well, then, if that's true, then the 'right to carry' handguns is still a good thing if people want to do it .....it causes no additional crime or problems. So we're right back to the issue of the 2nd amendment and the right to bear arms shoudn't be infringed. Those who wish to take our guns should come talk to you, Roman, ....thanks. Baron Max
http://www.mcsm.org/kennesaw.html Crime dropped like this? I think not! If crime dropped everywhere, there must be some 'causation'. Care to speculate what it was? Hint: it wern't the Brady Bunch of Bills! Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image! Some statistics would be lovely.
the fact is,the founding fathers knew guns are a good idea,and they specificly put in a provision to allow us to have them. every single place in america where carry laws have beed introduced crime has dropped,not once has crime gone up anywhere guns became more legal. criminals commit crimes regardless of what the laws are,so passing laws to stop crime is idiotic at best.it has never,and will never work in any way shape or form.criminals dont obey the law,thats what they do. anyone who wants my gun or thinks people shouldnt have guns should try and take them away from the people that have guns, good luck thou,being unarmed and threatening to take away peoples civil liberties,well see how well that goes down. GET YOUR PAWS OFF MY GUN,YOU DAMN DIRTY APE!!!!
Does anyone have a link for "The Failed Experiment" by Gary A. Mauser? It was the paper about gun cpntrol in England, Wales, Australia, Canada and the US.
If you look over it, you will see ho disengenious the graphs are, as there's an order of magnitude difference between the murder rates of the US and England. For instance, there are about 6 homocides per 100 thousand people in the US, while there are about 10 homocides per million individuals in the UK. The growing trend in UK crime compared to the US, when both scales are the same, show that American crime rates are far higher than the UKs. In fact, a homicide rate that goes from 8 people per million to 10 people per million is hardly significant as an increasing crime rate. In other words, the study lies, lots.
