Murder, would you, could you???

Discussion in 'Free Thoughts' started by taylan007, Nov 7, 2005.

  1. taylan007 Madman Registered Senior Member

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    Just a thought that come to mind, would you kill someone if murder wasn't against the law????



    (And no i do not have any tendancies to kill anyone, just the ocasional bunny now and then.)
     
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  5. SoLiDUS OMGWTFBBQ Registered Senior Member

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    teh fibi is watching this thread, so no... absolutely not.

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  7. tablariddim forexU2 Valued Senior Member

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    Regardless of the law, I would say, probably at a pinch, but it would take some radical circumstances to make me do something like that. I am normally a peace loving non-violent person, but so was Mad Max.
     
  8. Roman Banned Banned

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    I would.
     
  9. c7ityi_ Registered Senior Member

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    Maybe you would if there was someone like Hitler.
     
  10. bianca Registered Member

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    everyone has their own little hitler schema; only hitler was the first to coin it.
     
  11. Roman Banned Banned

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    I wouldn't kill Hitler. He gets a pretty bad rap, but how bad was he really?
     
  12. Fraggle Rocker Staff Member

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    I don't believe that my decision to kill someone would be greatly affected by whether it were legal. If I caught someone trying to kill or rape my wife or probably anyone else and perhaps even one of my beloved dogs, and the only way to stop them was lethal force, I would be compelled to do it. Of course I don't possess any lethal weapons so the situation seems impossible. Wrestling a crazy tough guy with a kitchen knife sounds like something that would end up worse for me than for him but at least it would probably slow him down enough that one of us could call the cops.

    Even if I lived in the bluest of blue states and killing in defense of a loved one is classified as murder I would still do it because I would be compelled to do so.

    And that, friends sums up my objection to capital punishment. Most murders are crimes of passion, something the person is driven to by circumstances. If not the sight of his wife being assaulted, then at least some recent perceived injury that overwhelms his sense of right and wrong or even makes killing seem just.

    No one who commits a murder like that is ever going to get into a situation like that again, so execution is not necessary to prevent a recurrence. Having seen other people be executed for murder is not going to stop anyone in a situation like that so capital punishment has no effect on the murder rate.

    Capital punishment is nothing more than revenge, one of the vilest human emotions, something that civilization is supposed to curb. The last thing you'd expect from a civilization is that its slow-moving, unemotional governments would perform acts of revenge.
     
  13. Light Registered Senior Member

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    Neither was murder by definition, but I already have - twice.
     
  14. water the sea Registered Senior Member

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    Describe. What happened?
     
  15. Light Registered Senior Member

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    The first could be considered an act of mercy. I authorized a life-support disconnection.

    The second was quite different. A drunken fool standing in the road was shooting at my house and then me when I went out to check. Never saw him before in my life. Went back inside, got my stepfather's shotgun he had willed to me, went back and tried to talk to the guy. He shot at me again. I dispatched him and called the cops. No charges filed. That was over twenty years ago.
     
  16. Roman Banned Banned

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    Sounds messy.
     
  17. invert_nexus Ze do caixao Valued Senior Member

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    I think that if murder weren't illegal, then you'd have no choice but to kill.

    However, the gist is more along moral lines than necessity... I'd say. Yes. Absolutely. I'd have killed several people by now. I know several that deserve nothing better.

    However, the truth is that I'd prefer to torture them. And leave them alive.


    A memorable quote from one of my favorite movies:
    God. I love that movie.

    You'd have to be quite innovative to keep someone alive and suffering after prolonged torture. One thing I'd be sure to do is remove the lower jaw.


    Anyway.
    Another point to consider besides my first about how a world with legal murder would probably be quite dangerous, one would have to consider that in a world where murder is legal it would probably not be considered taboo. You'd have no compunction to kill, in other words. Just like wiping your ass after taking a shit. Something that you do.


    Yeah it does.
     
  18. vslayer Registered Senior Member

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    if my safety, or the safety of someone unable to defend themselves was put at direct risk by someone then i would kill that person regardless of any laws.

    so basically,
    pull a gun on me and intend to use it: ill kill you
    if i see you try to kidnap or abuse someone: ill kill you
    if you declare an unjust war which kills innocent people: ill kill you
     
  19. Light Registered Senior Member

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    Well, I suppose it was because I think it may have taken off about a third of his face. I don't know for sure, though, because when he dropped I just turned and went into the house (never got closer to him the whole time than about 30 feet), closed the door and called the cops.

    When they got there they came in and talked to me and used my phone to call the cornor. When he got there, they took some pictures, bagged him, loaded him up and left. I never heard another word about any of it.
     
  20. GodlessEvil God is dead Registered Senior Member

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    If murder was not illegal, then chances are many other people might be willing to kill you, so it might end up a kill or be killed situation.

    When you go in the army and you have to fight, you kill people legally then, it is self defense, but the people you kill you do not know and in some cases they are just the same as you.
    I've always thought that was worse than, say killing some guy who slept with your wife, you know if you came home and some guy in bed with your women and you get angry and smash him over the head and he dies. Because he has done something to you personally, whereas some guy you shoot in a war, it is nothing personal, just duty.
     
  21. GodlessEvil God is dead Registered Senior Member

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    Thinking about it more, i suspect that if murder was legal, people would make a career out of it as a Hitman, being a hitman would be a 9-5 job as many people have the will but lack the stomach.
     
  22. c7ityi_ Registered Senior Member

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    murder is no illegal. nothing is.
     
  23. Thor "Pfft, Rebel scum!" Valued Senior Member

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    I have a hard time not killing people as it is. I look around at people today and see that they've become nothing but whinging, sheltered, lazy excuses of human life. If murder was legal, the population would go down quite a bit but we'd all be better off as a race.

    I'd make such a sweet dictator.
     

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