Secrets of the Holocaust

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  1. ghost7584 Registered Senior Member

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    what a shame!!!
     
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  5. cato less hate, more science Registered Senior Member

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    you do know that it is against the rules to just post links, right?
     
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  7. Dinosaur Rational Skeptic Valued Senior Member

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    While I do not think much of religion in general and the Catholic church in particular, It is outrageous to accuse them of backing Hitler and the Nazi cause. There is a lot of evidence that they did little to oppose him, but there is just no evidence to support the accusations in that link.

    As an atheist, I do not agree with any of the religions requiring belief in a deity. I would like to go on record as stating that I believe that the priests, ministers, rabbis, et cetera at the lowest level of the religious hierarchies tend to be very sincere decent people. It is also my belief that the higher you go in those hierarchies, the less sincere are the officials. As you go higher, they are more like dishonset politicians than believers.

    BTW: I beleive that dishonest politician, lying politicians, et cetera are redundant terms.
     
  8. glaucon tending tangentially Registered Senior Member

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    Well said Dinosaur. One of the most balanced and thoughtful posts I've seen here in some time. It's often difficult for us to still see the good in those who are part of an organization of questionable intentions and means.
     
  9. ghost7584 Registered Senior Member

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    http://www.geocities.com/visplace/vatican10p2.htm

    Go to that website and read in detail about the vatican helping Hitler come to power and the deals that Hitler made with the vatican.
    Online book, THE VATICAN IN WORLD POLITICS, by Avro Manhattan
    Catholic vote swept Hitler into power, 1933, when the pope said he was backing Hitler.
    A few pages down you can read how the catholic churches in Germany prayed for the success of the Nazi soldiers.
    My dad was in WW2. He told me that the catholic church started WW2. He said that when the German prisoners found out that he was catholic, they would tell him that he was on their side. I spoke to a former intelligence officer in WW2, old guy named Kurt Elbers. He told me that he had heard about that a long time ago, that the catholic church was supporting Hitler.
    When Hitler started losing to the Russians in 1942, the vatican changed over to the allies side and denied any involvement with Hitler.
    Research THE SECRET HISTORY OF THE JESUITS, by Edmond Paris
    Read the details Edmond Paris was a catholic French historian of some notariety.
     

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