Should prostitution be illegal?

Discussion in 'Politics' started by JTFdotORG, Oct 24, 2005.

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Prostitution legal?

  1. It should be legal

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  2. It shouldn't be legal

    9 vote(s)
    20.9%
  3. I don't care.

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    11.6%
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  1. justagirl Registered Senior Member

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    Max is too kind. An example:


    Giobbe, Evelina. 1992. “Juvenile Prostitution: Profile of Recruitment”. In Child Trauma I: Issues and Research. Garland Publishing. p. 117.

    I'm unable to draw any type of conclusion from that statement. Nor do I know the size of the study or what nationality. In parts of the world I'd believe that statement but it's a stretch to conclude it's worldwide.

    I wasn't able to find a review of the book and without more information, it's rhetoric.
     
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  3. gukarma Beijo do Gordo! Registered Senior Member

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    Why spoil somethinb beautiful by sharing it with a total stranger for MONEY?

    I don't get you.

    Yeah, that's what I said.

    Doesn't make it ok.

    Being a prostitute isn't within one's best interest of safety. Many of the people you'd deal with are dangerous and, seriously, how can you have sex with several people a day, several times a day, for a career?
     
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  5. justagirl Registered Senior Member

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    And why do you think your morals or beliefs should be used to mandate laws or control others? Our laws have to go beyond morality and personal beliefs, they just have to, otherwise, we'd have to honor the belief system of everyone.
     
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  7. gukarma Beijo do Gordo! Registered Senior Member

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    No, just of the majority. If laws weren't based in contemporary morality, what would they be based on? Made up shit?

    A government has the obligation to look out for the best interest of its citizens, that's why people aren't allowed to kill themselves. Prostitution as a means of living certainly isn't within the best interest of anyone. A proper education, and a safe, healthy life style is within the best interest of someone.
     
  8. Avatar smoking revolver Valued Senior Member

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    There are no legal sanctions for an unsuccesful suicide.
     
  9. Hapsburg Hellenistic polytheist Valued Senior Member

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    I'm 15. I'd rather want a prostitute nearer my age than far from it.
     
  10. Avatar smoking revolver Valued Senior Member

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    Want sheep? mheeeeeeeeeee
     
  11. justagirl Registered Senior Member

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    However, isn't that why we have seperation of state and religion? The supreme Court has ruled against the majority several times.
     
  12. Hapsburg Hellenistic polytheist Valued Senior Member

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    No, you welsh-minded maniac.
     
  13. gukarma Beijo do Gordo! Registered Senior Member

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    Like the ones for a succesful suicide would even matter.

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    I think the only reason you believe prostitution is great is because you hold that the more freedom the better.
     
  14. Baron Max Registered Senior Member

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    Yes, there are in the USA! It is, I think, a felony ...which means the person could get a jail sentence AND a fine.

    Baron Max
     
  15. Baron Max Registered Senior Member

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    You don't??????

    The problem, as I see it, is simple; how far should we be able to go to determine what someone else does? How far should "the majority" go to tell us what to do?

    I think that's a pretty complex issue, but ONLY when one begins to examine it closely does it become more and more simple. Take your own perspective: Should others be able to tell YOU what to do? If you can't see that as pretty damned simple, then you got more problems than you need.

    Baron Max
     
  16. one_raven God is a Chinese Whisper Valued Senior Member

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    I couldn't agree more.
     
  17. gukarma Beijo do Gordo! Registered Senior Member

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    The immediate answer is obviously no, but the issue does go a little further than you think. The American government was established both to ensure the rights and protect its people. The only reason prostitution would be illegal is because the government might've established that it is not one of the best choices as a career as far as safety goes. I happen to agree with that.

    The issue of freedom goes way beyond the juvenile "I do what I want" rap. While I believe I should be the ruler of my own destiny, I understand that there are things that I shouldn't be allowed to do for the wellfare of both myself and my peers.
     
  18. one_raven God is a Chinese Whisper Valued Senior Member

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    1.) There are plenty of carrer chices that are more dangerous.
    2.) It would be less dangerous if it were legal.
    3.) It is the government's job to protect you from your peers and them from you NOT you from yourself. I am an adult, it is the juvenuile who is not held accountable for his/her own actions that needs the adults to dictate how to live.
     
  19. Baron Max Registered Senior Member

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    So now you want the government to decide our career choices, too? What's next, deciding who we should marry? ...how many kids we should have? ...how many guns we're permitted to own?

    Can't have both. Ye're either the "ruler of your own destiny" or you ain't! And ye're advocating that you shouldn't be the "ruler of your own destiny". In fact, you've already gone so far as to advocate that the government make decisions on your career choice.

    Yes, I realize what you might have intended to say/imply, but as you can see, that compromise does nothing but get you in deeper and deeper .....and takes you further and further FROM being the "ruler of your own destiny".

    Baron Max
     
  20. gukarma Beijo do Gordo! Registered Senior Member

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    I dunno about that; there's no data to compare.

    You're right.

    I'd say the government's job is to look over your general well being. For instance, the government (rightfully) doesn't like it when you do drugs, or try to kill yourself.

    Yes. I want the government to tell me and you that we can't be contract killer, drug dealers, and prostitutes.

    You don't understand how humans work. We make a compromise with our governments for a minimal amount of peace and civilization: we give up some of our freedoms in order to have a decent, liveable society. I can safely say that I am a master of my own destiny, even though I don't have the freedom to be a pimp, crack dealer, murderer, or corrupt politician.

    Deeper and deeper into what? I've meant everything I said, and I find it difficult to believe that you are having trouble understanding the most basic premise of human civilization: some personal freedoms must be given up for the wellfare of humanity.
     
  21. Baron Max Registered Senior Member

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    Oh, I actually agree with you ...in principle!

    The question(s), however, is WHICH freedom(s) we give up AND what "the welfare of humanity" means ....and who is to decide all/any of that. See? It ain't so simple when you analyze it, which you don't seem to be doing. Try playing "Devil's Advocate" with yourself and see how simple it is.

    Just take New Orleans, for example; Everyone there knew that they were living below sealevel and if a big storm came, they'd be in trouble, if not wipped out. We've seen what happened with Katrina and what a terrible price they paid for their decision. And yet, the federal government is give billions to rebuild the fuckin' place! Do you want THOSE government people to make all those decisions on "the welfare of humanity"?

    Compromise? That means that there is an agreement between the parties involved. When was the last time you heard, for example, of any compromise between pro-lifers and pro-choicers? How 'bout on gun control? How 'bout on gay rights? How 'bout on MJ usage? Compromise? Just who is going to do all of this "compromising"? And when do they start?

    Baron Max
     
  22. Asguard Kiss my dark side Valued Senior Member

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    gukarma

    try the army, navy, airforce, police, astronaut, parishoot tester (ok that one isnt serious), dentist (they have the highest level of suicide of ANY profesion)
     
  23. ArtofWar Registered Senior Member

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    I voted for Illegalization. Also what do you all think about the many prostitution rings and human trafficking of Brazilian women????

    sorry if has already bee discussed in this thread for i have not read all 5 pages.
     
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