One of the greatest experiments with the US Constitution, in my opinion, was the Prohibition act (the 18th amendment). I've been long inspired by the "who wants to ban all tobacco products" thread, and so I would like to see how this poll goes. Personally, I advocate the destruction of all liquor. I don't ever want to become drunk, nor do I think it is fun or relaxing in any way. I do not like the taste of alcohol.
I'd say make it very expensive, like tobbaco products are then fewer people will be able to buy it. That way less problems with than trying prohabition again, more taxes and fewer people drinking.
So the fact that it is legal is somehow going to cause you to get drunk, or endure its foul taste? Are you that lacking in restraint, or is this some kind of stupid joke?
Prohibition has been tried, and it didn't work. It just led to a huge black market. Legality and regulation is much more effective. The same argument applies to legalising marijuana, and even harder drugs.
What if the distribution of alcohol was changed? What if alcohol (cannabis, nicotine, etc) were classed as behind-the counter Pharmacy drugs? How do you think that would affect consumption?
Hillbillies, illegal stills out in the woods (probably next to a meth lab or something), Hatfields, McCoys, Shine runners, Bo and Luke, NASCAR, etc.
Hell no, that'd never happen. Things always wind up worse when things are outlawed. If anything, all drugs and whatnot should be legalized. What should happen is greater punishment for the abuses of thoses various substances. Get caught drunk driving? See ya. Go on a drunken rampage fighting everyone? See ya. Get caught stealing something to supply that next dope fix? See ya. I seriously hate people that cannot handle their alcohol and become Dr. Jekyl and Mr. Hyde when drunk. Those are the weak bastards that don't deserve to live. At least this'll make for an easy filtration system to weed out all the psychos that can't control themselves. But for those that are of no danger to anyone and use those substances in a civil and mature manner, they should be allowed to use em. You know that so-called ficticious thing called "freedom"? - N
I'm not sure if it is still the case, but alcohol in Sweden could only be bought behind the counter. In Finland alcohol (above beer) is sold in state-owned stores only.
ARE you acomplte imbecile wit no radar about world events? have not seen the utter dismal failure of the so-called war on drugs....the oppression, violence, corrption, misery of all that...? are you now aware of similar gangsterism during the years of prohibition?....obvioulsy not. so ignore-antly you want to introduce that also to the violent mix...and all because you never touch a drop?
we cannot look t the problem of alcohol abuse and ignore the war on drugs and how the two relate. simply cannot. te situation is is that more and more people are being driven by this monster called modern civilization. itis oppressive, brtual etc etc. many people cant cope so turn to booze, many young epople are too. people have always taken drugs, but its only relatively recently that they havebeen prohibited from taking drugs they desire. they thus are virutally pushed on to th liquor bottle as their only means of sustenance
Prohibition of Anything we can ingest and that makes us feel good (even for a while) can NEVER work. BUT you DO have a choice and if you choose not to; that is your perogative. What we need to do is accept that drugs and alcohol and even sex are going to be tried by the majority and abused by a minority, therefore we need to EDUCATE on the wonders and perils associated with such substances and actions and we need to incorporate this education into the school curriculum from an EARLY age. Teach the kids what is desirable and what is destructive and then regulate the laws in such a way that they REALLY discourage any abuse, which affects third parties directly.
You think that no one should be able to engage in an activity simply because you personally find it distasteful? Are you serious?
i drink and i love alcohol. but i hate people who drive drunk and people who are violent when they're drunk
Prohibition drives the thing (whatever it is) underground. When stuff is driven underground people dont talk about it with the openness that they might otherwise do. When youngsters try prohibited things and find that they arent as quite as bad as has been made out, then prohibition only serves to undermine the authorities and therefore the youngster does not necessarily seek further education on the subject or have any respect for the other things that the authorities say. When things are out in the open, little Johnny can talk about the 'fear' he feels when he smokes :m: and then it can be discussed without fear of incarceration or judgement. I remember the police coming to my school when I was around 16. They asked the question 'who here has smoked :m: ?' No one put there hand up and no one asked questions. When the cops had left, all of us talked about what we had and hadnt done and in hindsight we were pretty ignorant as to the effects and risks and so on. Had we tried the stuff in a legal framework, we would have asked loads of questions and been really engaged. Prohibition is my pet hate. c20
I reallly really really recommed this book....its title is Animals and Psychedelics: The Natural World and the Instinct to Alter Consciousness, by Giorgio Samorini He revals that it is not just humans who seek out ways to change consciousness. it is a fascinating read.....: ...."Ethnobotanist Giorgio Samorini explores tis little-known phenomenon and suggests that. far from being confined to humans, the desire to exprience altered states of consciousness is a natural drive shared by ll living beings and that animals engage in these behaviours deliberately. Rejecting the Western cultural assumption that drug use is unnatural, Samorini opens our eyes to the possibility that beings who consume psychedelics-whethe human or animals-contribute to the evolution of their species by creating entirely new ptterens of behaviour that eventually will be adopted by othe members of that species...." It has been shown that in Indigenous traditions where here wasthe taking of sacramental psychedelics, as spon as the ey were invaded, andintroduced to alcohol and having their psychedelics prohibited, that this leads to the degradation WE are experiencing!
