The bad news for African Americans, they really have many times more seriously screwed up people as a proportion of their population than America as a whole does. The bad news for whites, It's the fault of white people that blacks have many times more seriously screwed people as a proportion of their population. If we are not going to call blacks genetically inferior then we must admit that something happened here in America that messed with some of their heads. More bad news for blacks, the damage that was done is mostly your problem now because it is being passed down through ineffective parenting styles. Even if blacks are raising their own kids well, by staying in African American neighborhoods they expose their kids a lot of trouble from screwed up neighbors, but moving into a non-black neighborhood exposes their kids to the humiliation of current white racism. More bad news for whites, pretending the past is the past and is over is not helpful to America. Having pockets in which crime is tolerated and in which children can't get decent educations and can't reach their potential is a waste of human resources and a source from which disfunction can spread in America. African Ameriacans are like our canary in the coal mine; when something is going wrong in America the easiest place to see the problem is in the African American communinty.
Cmon guys...do any of you eggheads have a real job? I work side by side everyday with blue collar whites,blacks, and latinos; and the simple fact is that those who are willing to work and be responsible for themselves succeed. Those who don't (that is those who think they are owed something,white black or purple) will never get anywhere in this society. I could go on,but the point is to those who remain stuck in the past, quit bitching and moaning, and get to work building a better life for yourselves and your children.
Fuzzy i dont want to call you a racist because you dont seem like the type to not allow someone to do something because of tehir race, but i will call you socially prejudiced. Can you give any exaples of what you are talking about (examples of blacks destroying themselves and the American society.) And then after you haev can you logically tie it together with the reprecussions of slavery?
Well thats just great thinking. Yea because you know places like Ecuador where 100 dollars a month is all they make and not even an educated person can get a job is just a great place to live your life. And of course the corrupt governments and beauracracies in places like that dont make those places any less "sick" than america. And of course when minorities come here and work for minimum wage where they make more than they would in a few months of working in other countries, they are really going to see how "sick" America really is.
Well how about car theft...job theft...assault....break-ins...refusal to learn skills, (of course there is little opportunity to learn skills, those dwindling opportuniteis go the white kids)...what else you gotta see? that's residual slavery...stealin' from the Man. Gettin' over is gettin' back ! Sure the system wants immigrants to work cheap, and like it. But that's not going to last any longer, it's over really, cause they had children here, and they want to move up...so right now, the Hispanics are a revolutionary force for development that the oil economy is increasingly unable to satisfy the aspirations of.... As for you Nirakar, you miss the whole point....sure there's lots of mental illness among blacks...but the whole white system is insane....where do we get off holding the world ransom with our military? while our trade deficit is off the edge...polluting the world while not transferring technology so as to develop the 3rd world so they have to burn wood to stay warm. and the whites continue to send their kids to Ivy League schools to get stoned in? the Oppressor is sicker than the Oppressed. But what I want to get to is to bridge the two worlds between whites and blacks so that we all work toward building a healthy society. But the whole slavery issue hasn't been resolved yet.......
You only have to read through this stuff and other threads like it to realise why black people don't tend to post. For all you god botherers out there a bible paraphrase which seems appropriate: Before you point out the speck in your brother's eye consider the beam in your own. Take your blinkers off too.
job theft? As in extortion? Car theft, assault, breakins are not exclusive to blacks. Refusal to learn skills....as in refusal to go to school. Well lets just think, the larger black demograph here in California and i am assuming in most of the united states live in impoverished areas. The schools in these areas are not the best. Hell the schools barely make the cut during inspection. The kids that go to these schools are impacted by two things. One is their parents who no doubtly perpetuate a cycle of poverty and by the peers around them that are in the same bout. These people will eventually grow up to continue this cycle. It is easy to say, they could just move somewhere else, it is easy to say they could try harder. However it is just a cycle that America is slowly trying to eradicate with time. Fuzzy your examples appear to be media driven. Remember that the media doesnt present the full truth. untill you live in an area were walking outside after 6 is dangerous i dont think your generalizations hold any credence.
And why is it NOT equally dangerous to walk around in poverty-stricken WHITE neighborhoods? The poverty is the same as the black area, the schools are equally impoverished, the unemployment is equally high, etc. Why is it dangerous ONLY in the black neighborhoods??? In the early 1900s, the midwest was racked with drought and hundreds of thousands of WHITE people lost everything in the "Dust Bowl". They picked up and moved to another location to start anew. Sure it's hard, but they did it .....why can't the blacks do it, too? Baron Max
i sm not saying it IS baron max.....but i keep hearing you going on about tis particularpoint over and over and over and over and over and over and over....agin so. over to yo white lad. why do YOU think that is so then? secondly, what do you propose to do about your problem.....? cuae it is you that keeps bringing it up. lets pretend it is true. what would you DO to resolve it?
its not so much an illness but disempowerment. the lasting effects of colonialization are well documented, the blacks in the states aren't the only ones suffering. Darn, a good percentage of the native indian population has it just as bad but they keep to themselves just like Downunder's natives. and being a racial minority doesn't mean you end up bad. The arab and chinese always seem to be able to develop their own little communities and coexist with the majority. Yes, the recent american atlantis has blantantly shown us what we already knew existed but refused to accept. It's not the oppressor's fault and the only way to end this, is to encourage interracial marriages and wait 500 years. Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image!
First thing you should do to help "resolve" this, is to not "pretend it is true" but to learn it is true.
ohhhhhh thank you for your wiiiiiisdom ohhh greeeat intelligent ooooone....but i wasn't aksin you i was aksin b max
I knew that blacks said the word asking like "aksin", but I did not know you guys wrote it that way too.
Well, as J.B. said, first we must NOT "pretend" that it's true. If we "pretend" that it's true, then we also can "pretend" to solve it! The "pretend" part of the whole issue is just such things as changing the way statistics are reported so that there's no way anyone can see the "black problems". They're "pretending" that is no problem, so the "problem" goes away, doesn't it?? And if anyone like J.B. pulls out the stats and posts them, y'all can just yell and bitch and call him a racist ......and "pretend" that there is no issue. Baron Max
I never said the situation of blacks in America wasn't an issue. The difference is J.B thinks it's a genetic issue, and I think it's a social issue influenced by decades of prejudice and economic exploitation.
So explain why it's not a major issue with Vietnamese, Chinese, Indonesian, Indians (India), Pakistani, etc? Why is it that they come here and fit in and work and save and become respected members of the society ...yet, blacks, who've been here for generations can't do it? Prejudice and economic exploitation? That also occured with numerous immigrant groups who came to America ...and yet they made it by working hard and making something of themselves. Why can't blacks do the same? Baron Max
