Is love a need or a desire?

Discussion in 'Human Science' started by water, Aug 31, 2005.

  1. barabas Registered Senior Member

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    there are a lot different forms of love :/ how about we specify?
    maybe the best way i can put it is; we desire love because we need it
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  3. cosmictraveler Be kind to yourself always. Valued Senior Member

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    Many don't even know what love is and it passes them by.
     
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  5. barabas Registered Senior Member

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    true words
     
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  7. devils_reject Registered Senior Member

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    Regardless of the type of love I think need and desire complement each other. We have food for nutritive values and food as pure pleasure…aphrodisiacs, both compliment each other. The former feeds the body while the latter feeds the mind. Love out of need teaches us of ourselves while love out of desire teaches us how to love. The former creates the individual while the latter is filled with surprises, wonders, forgiveness, hope, and passion.
     
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  8. Ibanez Somebody Set Us Up The Bomb Registered Senior Member

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    The desire/need to feel loved is probably different in every human, just as diverse as the rest of our personality traits. It also depends on what you would call "love". While some people may seek out deep, romantic relationships, others do perfectly fine with what we would call friends, and may not want anything to do with love. Some people are even content to be alone much of the time.

    IMHO, most people probably feel a need to know that someone cares about them, at least through their early stages of development. Whether you'd call that love or not is another issue.
     
  9. one_raven God is a Chinese Whisper Valued Senior Member

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    I don't think love is an individual need that a person wouild die directly from going without.
    Sure, some people feel unloved and commit suicide, or suffer physically, but certainly not all, and the related problems come from depression, sadness and dissatisfaction. Those results, it could be argues, don't come directly from a lack of love, rather a personal sense of rejection and disability to be accepted into societal norms. If someone is picked on all his life, he may just commit suicide as well, that doesn't beam that not being picked on is a "need".

    That said, I think perhaps, although love is not an individual human need, it just may be a social need.
    Without love, I don't think societies and communities can survive.
    Although a person can live a long fulfilling life as a hermit, a society can not survive without cooperation, compassion and love. It will fall apart at the seams.

    Just beacuse Maslow said it, doesn't make it true. Simple appeal to authority hinders critical thought and discussion.
     
  10. devils_reject Registered Senior Member

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    one raven,

    Coming back to Maslow Love is a derivative of need. Thus if you have satisfied all needs you will in turn begin to see things differently, or as some will say...fall in love. This is why need and desire complement each other. It's in seeing things differently that promotes the individual and the society alike, both intellectually and emotionally. All hats to love
     
  11. barabas Registered Senior Member

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    hahahaha fine here comes maslow again

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    what are the reasons then that i shouldnt believe him? im not beeing sinical btw, all the information is always welcome

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  12. Crucifixor Light must endure burning. Registered Senior Member

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    A friend once said to me;
    "Harry, when you're good you are good. But when you are in love you are GREAT!"

    Maslow does hit it closely, from my own perspective especially. I would not attend work if I did not feel needed / loved, I would actually end up staying in my room alone. Not even attempting to reach out after prolonged attempts proved their futility.

    As social beings, we need love. Or we persist in states of disarray, further examples of myself would be after a loss of determination due to a lack of being needed, I found myself bedridden for two weeks. I just had no reason to get out of bed. I have seen many examples of this as well.

    The situation degenerated, eventually I had to move home with my parents. It was interesting, because the moment I felt their love again, I began to search for work, I wanted community involvement.

    Now I am an employment counsellor. I help to try and get others to work before they fall away from their brothers and sisters. I also study and have a firm belief in Psychology, and the scientific yields, even though a lot of it sounds like philosophical jargon; someone always has an answer in it, or at the very least, many perspectives into events give us a better understanding of the being.

    Therefor, love is a need. A necessity. Some may find ways to perpetuate through a learned behavior that satiates the need. But thats still love.
     
  13. Raimon Registered Member

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    IMO Love is in fact an elixir of life which you need to let flow through you if you want to participate of it's benefits.

    Therefore everybody should open and maintain as many 'channels of love' as possible.

    Unfortunately human mankind (mainly in the 'Western World') has rather adopted several severe restrictions to prevent this elixir from proper flowing, which in my view is an essential reason for all the problems we're currently facing.
     
  14. Crucifixor Light must endure burning. Registered Senior Member

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    Inspirational and magnificent.
     
  15. Roman Banned Banned

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    Both, but I'm looking for a way to get rid of it.
     
  16. Crucifixor Light must endure burning. Registered Senior Member

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    Lead by example, if others enjoy the idea perhaps they will indulge it.
     
  17. SativaDiva Registered Senior Member

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    It is both. Whether it's a desire or need at the time depends on who is receiving the love. Not everyone needs someone to love them. In fact, some of the most successful people I know stay single for quite sometime. When the time is right and they desire someone, then they fullfil their desire. On the other hand, I know plenty who cannot function in life properly unless they have love. Those are the ones that need acceptance the most and will more than likely marry someone right after high school. They take care of their needs for that is what is most important to them.
     
  18. Seamus Registered Member

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    I believe that 'love' is a natural 'state' within us all that becomes evident through different degrees of maturity. So I don't believe that love is either a 'need' or a 'desire, although from time to time, we will experience the feeling that we 'need' love which we may interpret as 'desire' - ha!
     
  19. c20H25N3o Shiny Heart of a Shiny Child Registered Senior Member

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    It's love that puts the newborn baby to the breast. So I would say love is numero uno on the need's list.

    peace

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  20. Crucifixor Light must endure burning. Registered Senior Member

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    love is supposed to transcend the need for nourishment and protection. Though it may encompass many instinctive beginnings, love is and always will be more than carnal inspiration.

    Love is what we have made it to be.

    Its kind of like Plato's [Good]. In that it is an idea, a concept... essentially love is a form that we can aim for, but only know when it is there.

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  21. antifreeze defrosting agent Registered Senior Member

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    i can't say that i am well liked by people, much less loved, in fact there have been instances of folks crossing the street to avoid me...and that's all i'd like to say about that. but as far as loving something, i believe i need things, objects from which i derive happiness, favored foods, scotch, knives. do i love these things? i don't know, but i do need these things to make me happy, otherwise i'd get depressed and suicidal [funny how nobody ever commits suicide for rational reasons]. as for people, why any person would desire to love another human being is beyond me. yet it still happens. this unavoidability seems to indicate to me the presence of a need. :bugeye:
     
  22. c20H25N3o Shiny Heart of a Shiny Child Registered Senior Member

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    What is it about possessing knives that makes you happy :bugeye:
     
  23. antifreeze defrosting agent Registered Senior Member

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    well, it's not just knives, swords too. i have a nice katana, just beautiful really. oh, i don't know. i like their elegence, the smooth steel, the way the light reflects off it, the way they rotate in the air when you throw them at corkboard [knives of course, not the katana], and to think of all of the energy that went into making that one razor-sharp blade. what's not to like.

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