Americans this is why Katrina happened ?

Because your president has refused to sign on to the Kyoto Treaty to halt global warming, because American big business told him not to; and warming is where these super-hurricanes come from.

 

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Also, it's because prayers are not allowed in schools

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Jesus is angry

 

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It's because hurricanes form over the Gulf of Mexico, and New Orleans is on the coast of the Gulf of Mexico...cretins.

 

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So we sign the Kyoto treaty and follow it while others gain economic advantage by not following it. That makes a lot of sense. We keep losing industry after industry to other countries and can't keep enough people in the U.S. gainfully employed. The reasons include looser environmental regulations, looser enforcement of those regulations, and lower wages.

 

i agree! i was thinking the exact same thing the moment i heard about the hurricane. I think it very likely is due to global warming and it is bone-headed bush who is at fault .

The weather has been so strange all around the world these last few years.
...i think it could possibly result in the end of the world.

-becka

 

That is idiotic hurricanes are a common natural occurance in the gulf, New Orleans has just been lucky that it hasn't been hit before. Check the history of galveston Texas here 105 years ago long before kyoto, autos, etc etc what treaty went unsigned to cause that?

PS not saying that kyoto shouldn't be signed just that your claim is ridiculous

 

...Seriously...guys...it's hurricane season...hurricanes form over the Gulf of Mexico...New Orleans is located off of the Gulf of Mexico....that is why a Hurricane, formed during hurricane season, over the Gulf of Mexico, hit a location... off of the Gulf of Mexico...it's quite simple. So rather than making yourself dumber and dumber, exponentially, every picosecond you think of some way to blame Bush, just accept the fact that if a large city is on the Planet Earth, and natural disasters happen everywhere on the planet Earth, odds are every now and then a major city is going to be devasted by a natural disaster. That's the way Nature works...indiscriminately, indifferently, and apathetically. Get used to it....it's not going to change.

 

The scientists agree that a warmer Gulf would make stronger hurricanes but not more hurricanes. Othe factors make the years that have more hurricanes. If the Gulf had been cooler Katrina would not have been as strong.

Exactly what percentage of Katrina's wind speed can be blamed on global warming is not clear. Maybe 1/4 percent or maybe 30 percent, I don't have a clue, but global warming might have played a role.

 

Uhh, you mean the contrails that are crystalized vapor from 747s combustion engines?

Next you'll be telling me there are "unknown persons creating clouds of chemicals by using their mouths in cold climates."

 

exactly!

 

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Nice

 

Heh, I remember when I was a kid, seeing on the front page of the National Enquirer that dinosaurs became extinct because of that same reason, lol.

- N

 

Not much of the levees broke. There are a few subtleties to building levees, but the basic principle in this case is that more and sturdier is better. With the pumps, good maintenance, continually renewed equipment, and independent power sources are better.

Using a "more is better" approach would have prevented most of the flooding. Building a dike and pumping stations is a much better use of our time than making war, too.

We're talking about a storm surge that could easily have been deflected by rebuilding the levees in a timely manner, and a lake that only rose about eight feet. Global warming may or may not be a reality, but we had the chance to make the reality turn out in our favor in this case.

 

I hope God will save as soon!

 

I hear god gives the best massages available in the multiverse! Yeah baby!

 

mmmmmmmmmm, god baby

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To the idiot waving the Kyoto treaty -> Hurricanes happen, get over it.
They were here on Earth before humans and will be after them (if we go extinct).

 

Here's what caused it:
Nature, fuckers. No deities, no stupid presidents, no treaties. It's just a naturally-occuring anomaly in the weather pattern, it happens all the fucking time.
It's not nature's fault that humans are stupid enough to built cities in thier path.

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Every bad thing that happens - somebody will try to make a political issue out of it to score points. That's what politics is... squabbling for power while ignoring most of the real problems that face people. Let's skip over regular politics and try to see the issues in a clearer light.

Here's the core of the discussion - hurricanes happen. They happen during predictable periods, to well-defined areas of coastline, with several days' warning and with well-understood consequences. Any government that chooses to ignore these realities and fail to do their utmost to secure cities, ports, industrial facilities and power plants is committing a crime. They are failing to live up to their responsibility as public servants and stewards of the public trust. And if people die as a direct result of their incompetence, then they are guilty of negligent homicide. Democrats and Republicans... there has been shirking of responsibility all round.

But the public has a responsibility, too. Anyone who chooses to live in hurricane territory ought to know how to cope with the inevitable, and ought to build hurricane-proof homes. Anyone who is forced by circumstances (birth, poverty) to live in their path ought to be educated on the details and given the resources to survive. The economy ought not to depend on one or two ports that lie within the danger zone for the import of oil and the export of other goods. It ought not to rely on an oil patch that can be knocked out by one storm. And the public really ought not to put all their faith in an amorphous entity called "government", as though it were something outside of and separate from them. When the chips are down, all we've got is our neighbors, and so we'd better plan accordingly.

Maybe we're causing global warming, maybe we aren't. Instead of arguing about it let's acknowledge that it is happening and that we are unlikely to be able to slow it down. The point is that global warming didn't cause the deaths of 5000 people, the loss of 50 Billion dollars' worth of property and a sucking chest wound to the U.S. economy. It wasn't the hurricane, either. It was ignorance, mostly. Ignorance and greed. Are greenhouse gases accelerating global warming and making hurricanes worse? Probably. Is it Bush's fault? Not really. He's a product of his environment - would you expect him to do anything different? Besides, it's my fault for continuing to drive a gas-powered car, using carbon-generated power and buying products whose manufacture and disposal harm the environment. It's my fault for not raising hell with my mayor, county reps, state senators and so on - demanding change. It's the fault of all the educated, well-heeled and influential New Orlineans (?) who should have known what all the scientists were saying and who could have done something about it ahead of time.

It's all our faults for not giving a shit.