Do morals come from God?

Discussion in 'Ethics, Morality, & Justice' started by James R, Jun 29, 2005.

  1. cato less hate, more science Registered Senior Member

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    no
     
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  3. Rosnet Philomorpher Registered Senior Member

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    Does God come from morals?

    No.
     
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  5. Rosnet Philomorpher Registered Senior Member

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    In short, it is enough to have morals. Kick out god.
     
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  7. Hapsburg Hellenistic polytheist Valued Senior Member

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    Hear Hear!
     
  8. ReighnStorm The Smoke that Thunders Registered Senior Member

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    You mean Burn Burn!!
     
  9. Baron Max Registered Senior Member

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    Yeah, as long as they're mine or I agree with them! If not, what then?

    Baron Max
     
  10. dsdsds Valued Senior Member

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    If "GOD" came down and revealed his reality, then he/she/it would cease to be "GOD", and it wouldn't matter what he/she/it would tell us because he would only be some guy telling us what to do. Some of us would BELEIVE he is the God, some of us would BELIEVE he's just a guy with special powers, and some of us would BELIEVE he's just a guy with some tricks.

    I'm assuming that if "GOD" did come down and tell us to kill our family members, we would just start BELIEVING that it is not God (maybe the devil disguised as God, or a really mean guy who knows some pretty nifty tricks, or whatever).

    Without Belief, there is no God. Morals are defined by humans who beleive in God.
     
  11. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    Kick out both.
     
  12. Lord_Phoenix New World Order Registered Senior Member

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    No one would believe if some one claims that they are god, so nothing will ever change.
     
  13. dsdsds Valued Senior Member

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    Some would ..ex. Jesus.
     
  14. Hapsburg Hellenistic polytheist Valued Senior Member

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    Hear Hear. Morals impede fun. Fun is good.
     
  15. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    Yes, morality comes from religion and both are corruptions of our natural state.
     
  16. Rosnet Philomorpher Registered Senior Member

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    Morality is necessary for happiness.
     
  17. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    The idea that we must seek a happy state is also a corruption of our natural state, which is always in flux.
     
  18. Baron Max Registered Senior Member

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    Hmm, what about people whose morals are different and thus their happiness is likely different ......and they move into a society where the morals are differnt to their own? And worse, what if the immigrants' morals and subsequent happiness causes the new group UN-happiness?

    Happiness? What is that and how can one define it objectively? And if it can't be defined objectively, then morals can't either, right?

    Baron Max
     
  19. Baron Max Registered Senior Member

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    What is our "natural state"? Can you explain that some more?

    Baron Max
     
  20. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    Most people live in their thoughts, and identify the thought process as theirselves, but I think this (the ego) is a recent invention that is passed on through culture. The natural state is the absense of this identification.
     
  21. Kron Maxwell's demon Registered Senior Member

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    Is this argument about morals or god?
     
  22. Prince_James Plutarch (Mickey's Dog) Registered Senior Member

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    I pose this question first asked by Socrates:

    Is it good because God wills it, or does God will it because it is good?
     
  23. Hapsburg Hellenistic polytheist Valued Senior Member

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    Not really. I'm perfectly happy being an immoral, apathetic, saber-rattler.

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