Vegetarian recipes...

You are quite wrong. Point in fact, the vegetation within any local area is unlikely to meet human dietary requirements. It is only the availability of a large variety of plants due to transportation of produce that allows people to sustain a vegan diet. As spurious already mentioned our dentition matches that of omnivores. So does our GI system.

That would depend upon your activity level not the age you live in. If you are a marathon runner you'll need more calories than a hunter gatherer would.

Hate to break it to you but you probably consume most of your sugars as starch. Being a vegan does not guarantee good health. You still have to pay attention to what you are consuming. I've met plenty of pudgy malnourished vegans (lots of pasta, vegetables, fruits, and salad, not enough beans, legumes, and sprouts). "Gee, I eat toast for breakfast, salad for lunch, and pasta for dinner... why are my gums bleeding?" I even know one gal who put herself in the hospital with vitamin A toxicity (too many yellow vegetables, plus megavitamins).

Once again, the mantra of "Meat bad. Plants Good." does not hold true. Meat can easily fit into a healthy diet. It's just that Westerners, and Americans in particular, eat far too much. Too much of some things are as dangerous as not enough. You still have to be aware of what you're eating.

~Raithere

 

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I'm a marathon runner and I hardly ever eat meat. Peanut butter is a suitable replacement.

 

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I practice taekwondo and I don't feel a calory hunger.
For a fast boost you can always use chocolate

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i run+bike approx 70-100km/week

my diet is: eat when hungry; eat what i crave.
we naturally carve things which we need for certain vitamins, so it all works out fine

 

Raithere, read what I wrote more carefully.

How many average Americans need to consume marathon-level calories? And for the ones who do, don't tell me meat is the only high calorie food out there.

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Also, I remember Scientific American saying something about a low calorie diet helping to increase the number of your healthy years, and maybe your lifespan as well. But I doubt if it's verified or researched thoroughly, so I'll leave that as a fun little "fact" candidate.

 

pita and hummus is really good for a quick and cheap meal. i add a little cucumber to give it some crunch.

 

False authority is not Ad Hom. It is Ad Hom what are you talking about?

 

Sorry but you are quite wrong.

How is this relevant? An artificial phenomenon does not make meat more readily available to humans in nature than edible vegetables.

Sure. And the tooth fairy is my roommate.

I agree. You might do well to watch what you eat. Being obsessed about what you put into yourself can probably do you good. As long as you don’t fall for the myths about catching diseases and crap if you do not. You are more prone to disease if you do not pay much attention to what you eat on an omnivorous diet than a herbivore diet. All the fallacies about protein and vitamin-b are as real as your imaginary friends.

Of course it does.

It depends on what it is to be healthy. Mean is as unnatural to the human herbivore as cigarettes and narcotic drugs. This does not mean that humans cannot resist these poisons, and live decently as long as they are consumed in moderation. Of course, if you really want to be healthy, you are always better off avoiding any such substances all together. Not that you cannot be decently healthy by consuming a limited amount.

 

I understood your point. Mine was that we consume sugars as starch. Sugars are mandatory for good health; it's where we get most of our energy. Processed and refined cane or beet sugar is another matter. Just trying to be clear.

Not many have to keep up a marathon-level caloric intake. But my point was that it's our activity level that determines our caloric needs. We're better off increasing our activity level than simply cutting calories. Making the point to be caloric intake is misleading, you can be thin and sedentary and probably be in generally worse health than someone who has some fat on his ribs and is active.

They've been able to produce this result in mice and dogs. But it's essentially a starvation level diet and research in monkeys seems to indicate that it's actually a secondary effect.

There's a bunch of stuff on PubMed, sorry I couldn't find a reference to the monkey article I read.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/...d&dopt=Abstract&list_uids=11582761&query_hl=4


cool skill

You're a funny guy. Thanks for the laugh.

~Raithere

 

Your welcome. I'm glad you find your retardism funny.

 

somebody has been sleeping during his lectures
there was no ad hominem, just a valid argument

 

There was no lecture, no valid argument, and pure ad hom.

 

Let's all just accept the fact that cool skill doesn't blindly believe everything someone with a degree says and MOVE THOSE FUCKING ASSES ALONG.

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Nincompoops. The lot of you. Here, have some :m:.

 

This could throw the meat eater versus vegimite battle into an interesting new direction.

A plant chemical found in soya, tofu, and legumes could potentially damage male sperm and affect male fertility. It could also have an impact on women trying to conceive.

Ouch. I doubt if it's even possible to have a balanced vegetarian diet without soya, tofu, or legumes.

This could be the end of vegetarianism, and victory for the Texas ranchers who sell meat. Double ouch.

 

So what? I don't eat soya anyways and care little about "fertility"

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Besides, eating meat is not an option, even if it saves my life.

 

Avatar's not in danger, he eats plenty of peas and beans. As far as I see, he can make beautiful helathy babies =)

 

There is nothing wrong with trusting science.
You act as if people are going on some kind of trend, and trying to get others to join.
It is plain ans simple fact that humans are not omnivores. Furthermore, it is also better to eat natural food that is not processed.
It has nothing to do with being a health not or saying that others should follow some diet.

If you want to eat meat and processed food, that is your choice. Just like smoking.
The point is that there is nothing healthy about it for the human being.

 

Let me see if I can put this as eloquently as you would.

WRONG.
(the simple fact is that human dentition and nutritional requirements indicate that we are indeed omnivores)

WRONG.
(this is debatable, depending upon what you mean by 'processed', typically it's a good idea to cook foods because cooking tends to break down toxins and make food more easily digestable)

WRONG.
(pound for pound there is much more nutrition in meat than in vegetable matter, it's just a matter moderation... better yet, eat insects)

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~Raithere

 

Ah, don't bother with him. He even had a phD biologist tell him about omnivores and humans, but he values his religios high school teacher more I presume.