US arms policy

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Michael, Jun 10, 2005.

  1. Michael 歌舞伎 Valued Senior Member

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    No . . . . . Uzbekistan or KSA or Egypt doesn’t suppress or abuse it own people . . . . :bugeye:

    As Americans, can we see it from their point of view? Why they may think WE’re the terrorists?

    Does anyone remember the Iran contra fiasco?

    Does anyone wonder why (some) Chileans danced in the street on 9/11?

    Who can trust America?
     
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  3. Mystech Adult Supervision Required Registered Senior Member

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    Please link too or otherwise cite your source for that article as per the forum's plagiarism rules.
     
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  5. Neildo Gone Registered Senior Member

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    Well those countries are going to get weapons either way whether from us, or someone else so we may as well get the profit from it. My only hope is that we're selling them some pretty crappy or at least non-advanced weaponry that way they're not much of a threat to us.

    But I do agree that it's pretty stupid, the hypocrisy of what Bush wants to do. So while those countries may be no threat to us with their weaponry, they will still use them to abuse their populace or whatever it is we claim these so-called bad countries do with their undemocratic ways.

    - N
     
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  7. Mystech Adult Supervision Required Registered Senior Member

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    Well that's awfully fatalist. You know, democracy is going to fall eventually, maybe we should just liquidate all of America's assets, give each citizen a few million dollars (or uuh Euros or Canadian dollars) and get a bunch of plane tickets to disperse us all over the world where we can live happily with a bunch of money.
     
  8. Brian Foley REFUSE - RESIST Valued Senior Member

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    Amazingly the article omits Israel which is the worst human rights offender on the globe . If America was to invade Israel and hand that land back to its rightful indigenous inhabitants the Palestinians that would be a global goodwill windfall for Americas reputation .
     
  9. Mystech Adult Supervision Required Registered Senior Member

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    What a load of tripe. I mean I'm fairly prone to be harsh on American foregone and domestic policy, I whole heartedly believe in policing our own, and feel we have a responsibility to be harder on ourselves and hold our own accountable first so that we can be the best we can be. . .

    But the worst human rights offender in the world? Really? Are we worse than Sudan? what about China? We've got our human rights abuses, that's for damn sure, and we need to take care of those, but I assure you we're far from the worst.

    As far as Israel goes, you'd have to be crazy to think that any one side has a complete and undeniable claim on that land. Both parties are guilty of gross wrongdoing and I don't see how one side can be said to disserve the land more than the other at this point. I will admit, however, that supporting Israel as we have is probably not the best policy, when Palestinians see Israelis shooting their kids with American helicopters tanks and guns it can understandably cause some ill will. We shouldn’t be supporting Israel so strongly and instead support a peace between both parties while condemning both of them.
     
  10. Michael 歌舞伎 Valued Senior Member

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    Sorry about that, I thought it was included: US arms policy
     
  11. Michael 歌舞伎 Valued Senior Member

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    It’s really hard to imagine how it feels to want to be free and to be oppressed isn’t it?

    Can you imagine if you lived in a part of LA, and the city governor (a rich fat bastard) supported the drug gangs that ruled your neighborhood? Sold them weapons, gave them protection – let them beat on you.

    How’d you feel?

    Maybe you’d want to leave – go live where the governor lives? But the gangs needed you to work for them (making drugs et al) and the governor didn’t want your sorry ass in his neighborhood – Nope, you couldn’t leave.

    Over the decades, gang style urban-warfare developed and with it Your Society. After awhile the people/your people were f*cked in the head. And so the governor kept selling guns to the gangs and the people stuck in there kept hating the governor and the urban-siders, who, between breaks in TV and BigMacs, thought to themselves: Well those gangs are going to get weapons either way whether from us, or someone else so we may as well get the profit from it.
     
  12. TheAcridApe Mt. Monkey Resident Registered Senior Member

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    He was not saying that the US is the worst he said that Israel was. I understand that the Palestinians have made bad moves as well, but they were there originally. So, technically it really was theirs and then stolen from them.
     
  13. Neildo Gone Registered Senior Member

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    Heh, and just so you know, that's not my personal belief on the matter. I'm just saying that's what the higher ups probably feel about it, and why we continue to trade arms with so-called bad countries. You know, the whole keep your friends close and your enemies closer.. as well as what a tangled web we weave when first we practice to deceieve. Gotta love how complicated everything becomes, heh.

    - N
     

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