Are short people insecure?

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  1. tablariddim forexU2 Valued Senior Member

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    Being a short male and married to an even shorter woman, I find tall attractive women peculiarly desirable; maybe it's because they're unattainable to me.
     
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  3. Gravity Deus Ex Machina Registered Senior Member

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    Well, most men in our society (short or tall) - especially those under the age of 35-45 or so, are simply insecure when it comes down to it. Manifesting in different ways, with the shorter ones I'm sure height issues are one of the manifestations.
     
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  5. philip17 Registered Member

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    Atleast short people aren't arrogant.
     
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  7. philip17 Registered Member

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    Short people advantages.

    Shorter people have faster reaction times, greater ability to accelerate body movements, stronger muscles in proportion to body weight, greater endurance, and the ability to rotate the body faster. They are also less likely to break bones in falling. Shorter people are also less likely to require surgery for herniated spinal disks. In addition, shorter people are less likely to break a hip from falling. Another advantage of smaller people is that they are less likely to die in auto crashes.One study found that people weighing less than 132 pounds had the lowest risk of dying or suffering serious injuries compared to bigger people.

    An early paper illustrating the greater longevity of shorter people appeared in the Bulletin of the World Health Organization in 1992. Since then we have presented substantial findings showing that shorter, smaller people live longer. The reason for this is that bigger bodies have more cells and these cells are subject to replacement due to wear or damage. Ha!

    A few years ago, a comprehensive study of about 300 height and cancer papers, concluded that taller people had a 20 to 60% higher incidence of cancer compared to shorter people. More recently, breast, testicular, and prostate cancer studies found taller women and men suffered from substantially higher cancer rates.

    I'm really glad I'm small.
     
  8. prakrutis Registered Senior Member

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    heard somewhere that short people are sly and sinister. Is it true? Any experiences?
     
  9. Gambit Star Universal Entity Registered Senior Member

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    just remeber that time that really tall guy got out of the small car in "the simpsons", y'know the one where he made neslon walk through the streets with his pants down >?

    insecurity is everyones issue, that is why there are such things as fashion, make-up, obsessive workout techiques, obsessive dieting, yardy yardah .....
     
  10. cosmic cow Registered Member

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    I'm only about 5'8", kinda short by american standards, and relativley light, maybe 145 lbs. (1.72 m, 68kg for those in the metric crowd) I dont think that I'm insecure, but I do notice that when I'm with my taller friends, and we meet someone new, the new person will usually give more respect to my tall friend than they do me.

    So, I do find it sometrimes nescesary to interact with someone in a confrontational manner just so they know I'm around.

    I've had instances, growing up, when I seemed to get picked on simply becuase of my small stature. It made me an easy target. Because of that I've had to learn to be a bit of a pain in the ass when required.

    I dont push people around, I'm actually very polite and non-violent. But if people want to push me around, I'll push back hard.

    People that think that small people have a chip on their shoulder may be disrespecting them without being wholly conscious of it.
     
  11. Jaybee from his cast Banned Banned

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    I have similar experiences. As a 6'0" bodybuilder, a lot of guys are intimidated by my physicality, and it follows therefore, despite my boyishly handsome smile (heh!), many petite girls find me even more aweing, and not necessarily to my benefit.

    As a fan of the larger lady, may I ask how tall you are? And..I won't ask your weight, being a gentleman, but would you describe yourself as Ecto, Meso or Endo?

    I've always been a big fan of big women. Yes, I've seen a lot of beautiful petite women, but all other things being equal, big beats small. And that goes for both genders, indeed in most areas of life.


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  12. prakrutis Registered Senior Member

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    I'm 5'8" - taller than an average Indian male, being a female I stand head and shoulders above my counterparts. I'm overweight by about 20 kilos. Also, my build is quite braod, giving me a very large appearance. My dark large eyes, and my habit of looking straight into the other person eyes, while talking doesnt really help them feel comfortable.
     
  13. Gravity Deus Ex Machina Registered Senior Member

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    Looking into peoples eyes only makes the insecure uncomfortable. It makes the rest of us feel more connected to the speaker.
     
  14. prakrutis Registered Senior Member

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    Exactly the point. I look into the eyes to feel more connected. Most men (Indian), feel insecure just by the sight of a larger woman.
     
  15. Jaybee from his cast Banned Banned

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    I'm actually an NRI myself, and although I'm still taller than my NRI peers, the improved nutrition increased average heights by a couple of inches above the previous generation.

    Taller women seem more prized here (and are DEFINITELY prized by me!) although if you exceed average male height, you are at a slight disadvantage in the dating pool here, a disadvantage that increases with every inch over 5'9".

    I personally feel I have a duty to marry a taller, larger woman; a duty to my future kids. I definitely want my sons to be taller than I am, and my daughters to be taller than my mother.


    Jaybee
     
  16. prakrutis Registered Senior Member

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    "I personally feel I have a duty to marry a taller, larger woman; ....."

    I have rejected many marraige proposals just becuase the man was shorter or the same height.

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  17. Jaybee from his cast Banned Banned

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    How difficult has it been to get men to overlook your weight? Even at average weights, I find they value the sleek, slim look of Rai over the slightly larger boned Shetty (whereas my preference is the reverse) and of course, your country is overflowing with slim women.

    I cannot imagine the disadvantage that an excess 20kg of fat must be when trying to find an Indian man...my comiserations.


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  18. Tiassa Let us not launch the boat ... Valued Senior Member

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    "Short people got no reason to live." (Randy Newman)

    Remember that the taller man usually gets elected president; I don't think that's a uniform standard anymore, but I haven't cared enough to look. To the other, though, if anyone recalls the excellent movie Crazy People, "Americans are just too damn tall!"

    More appropriately:

    • Neimark, Jill. "The Beefcaking of America". Psychology Today, Nov./Dec., 1994. See http://cms.psychologytoday.com/articles/pto-19941101-000021.html

    • BBC News. "Does your height affect your life?" June 30, 2003. See http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/talking_point/3014106.stm

    • Mangano, Joe. "Heightism - The Last Bastion of Discrimination". ShortSupport.org, May, 2002. See http://www.shortsupport.org/Essays/JoeMangano1.html
     
  19. prakrutis Registered Senior Member

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    20KGS in a 5'8" broad frame get lost. Though i dont look as slim as rai or any on that list.....i dont even appear to be fat - its an advantage that the height gives. But an overall impression of my physical appearance is like a mountain.

    Also you view about females in India is not completely correct. An average Indian woman is slightly overweight - especailly after marraige and childbirth. Most of them never get back into shape. Maybe that's the reason Indian men look for a slim woman to marry to, so that she does not get toooo fat after childbirth

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    But ofcourse your view will have formed only by the pictures that you see of India (usually they only show the poverty) and movies (bollywood is out answer to hollywood

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  20. Jaybee from his cast Banned Banned

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    I find it difficult to believe that 20kgs of flesh, blood, bone and fat can be hidden from the casual observer when dressing without the intention of concealment. When you say 'mountain', I presume you have a pear-shaped figure - narrow shoulders, widening out to the largest circumference at hip level, and then tapering slightly towards your feet.


    Well, that's the great thing about getting a tall wife; her height will NEVER vary!

    I attribute any excess weight to poor diet. As wealth increases over there, so does the volume of food taken in, but I suspect that the type of food does not vary, or in fact gets worse; people are tempted to eat more of that sickly-sweet stuff that seems so popular over there, and the vegetarians eat very, very little protein indeed - I know this, as chapati/potatoes/vegetables contain very little Protein.


    Actually, not ONLY by Bollywood/the News; I have received some friends of my father at my house, and a minority of my peers have decided to marry women from India. One or two of them were of average build (by western standards), but the majority were built more like Rai than Shetty.

    Incidentally, the second generation here doesn't watch much Bollywood, and I don't watch it at all; I concede that the quality of output has increased dramatically over the last 5-10 years (from what I've heard), but unless they start to produce non-weepy films of the calibre of 'The Matrix', or 'Collateral', I will not be tempted.

    Going back to Indian women, how often do you notice women who are taller than you (aside from family) ?


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  21. Fenris Wolf Banned Banned

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    Shorter men are more likely to be insecure.

    When discussing what women are attracted to, physical presence is almost always a factor. However, it is not the physical presence in itself which leads to the attraction - more often than not, it is the self-confidence that a physical presence can help provide. A larger man is, generally speaking, more secure in himself. That security derives largely from the knowledge that he is percieved by others as being able to enforce his will when neccessary, regardless of whether or not he is actually able to. To use a metaphor, a large man is like one born wealthy. Confidence can be found, or found lacking, in both large and small - but it is by far found more frequently in the large, given a good headstart. This can have its disadvantages, too, in that the larger man's confidence derives almost solely from others reactions to him rather than from any real knowledge of himself, but when speaking of social advantage that point is irrelevant.

    Watch any action movie. Among the bad guys, there is the leader, the thugs he controls, and the nerdy scientific type who makes the bombs and hacks into computers. Note the physical aspect of each actor playing those characters. Note that the little nerd psycopath is never the leader.

    When confronted by a larger man, a smaller has an instinctual biological awareness that he is in the presence of another who he thinks he is unlikely to be able to physically dominate. Thus, he finds other avenues. Humans adapt readily.
    An interesting note. Take the fingers of your hand and measure roughly three inches - 7.5 cm. That is the difference between a man who is 5'8" and one who is 5'11" - in purely physical terms, next to nothing. Yet, when a confrontation occurs, individual perception can magnify that difference many times. That magnification is the result of an instinctual fear reaction.

    Some smaller men become amiable, friendly types, able to get along with anyone simply because they must in order to avoid confrontation - and sometimes to have help nearby should it occur. Some become conniving, sharp and cunning. Some habitually confront those larger than they in order to "prove" themselves. Others will walk away from a fight, telling themselves that they are the bigger man for doing so - in order to mask their true motive. We've already seen in this thread the ones who will find advantages in being short...delberately. We've also seen those who stress that they would remain unbowed when beaten. That, too, is an admission in itself. It is also a means by which the smaller man seeks to earn the respect of the larger man who has just beaten him by remaining unbowed. That it makes him the supplicant is often not percieved.

    In the modern work situation, we commonly see authority derived from a badge of office rather from any natural authority. While not strictly on topic, as others factors come into play in this, it can be a result of weakness sheltering under the wing of social control.

    Some focus more on the intellect and assume superiority that way. This is only a temporary solution in a social situation. When speaking of initial attraction, the intellectual may do well with women who find an intellectual attractive - until he is confronted with another man who is also an intellectual but who happens to have a greater physical presence. It can be interesting to see a seemingly confident intellectual stammer in the presence of another who he knows can beat the shit out of him should the situation arise - or how his language changes from being a confident opinion to an opinion put in more polite terms.
    Instinct. Powerful, largely subconscious, and almost uncontrollable.

    (It is interesting to note at this point that some of the examples above exhibited by many smaller men are generally considered as being "feminine" social traits).

    I am also considering, once again, the difference the internet has made in this regard. It has become a levelling factor in many ways - and yet, it also serves to magnify some aspects of personality as well. It is not difficult in many instances to spot the little man hidden behind the computer screen. Given the opportunity to transcend genetic boundaries, many instead show an unawareness of the self by magnifying insecurity instead.
    Caricatures. I'm thinking of caricatures.
     
  22. aw3524 Registered Senior Member

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    I *used* to be teeny-tiny, and I always felt like people were laughing at me behind my back. I'm semi-tall now, and not insecure anymore.
     
  23. apendrapew Oral defecator Registered Senior Member

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    In my experience short people are particularly insecure. They're always trying to prove something. Completely transparent. "I know what your problem is. You're short!" Then I kick them.
     

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