Underground Internet

Discussion in 'Computer Science & Culture' started by Sky, Jan 10, 2005.

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  1. Sky Registered Senior Member

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    Anybody knows where is that ?
     
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  3. Athelwulf Rest in peace Kurt... Registered Senior Member

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    Where did ya hear about this? I had no idea there was an underground Internet.
     
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  5. Xerxes asdfghjkl Valued Senior Member

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    you mean like freenet, pgp..that sort of thing?
     
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  7. vslayer Registered Senior Member

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    i think you are referring to the network setup mainly for filesharing, in which an impartial website provides links to illegal software, and by claiming they just link to other servers get away from any legal problems.

    then they link to ftp servers which run on rotations making it near impossimle for them to be traced by one police force, and interpol needs to step in before anything can be done.

    there is also the way that people use webisets to set up "meets" then they directly connect to other computers thru the phoneline but not an isp, meaning it cannot be traced
     
  8. Closet Philosopher Off to Laurentian University Registered Senior Member

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    Do you mean hacking? filesharing? warez? black market?

    Much of this can be found through astalavista.org, the "online security" site.
     
  9. Stryder Keeper of "good" ideas. Valued Senior Member

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    Perhaps you mean the creation of Wireless Networks where connected systems circumnavigate ISP's and therefore also circumnavigate RIAA investigations in peersharing etc.
     
  10. dsdsds Valued Senior Member

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    Can there really be multiple "internets"? There may be ways to improve or change standards & protocols and there are ways to restrict parts of the internet but how can there be more than 1 internet? Also, another question which I should post in the AI forum:
    Is the internet alive?
     
  11. Stryder Keeper of "good" ideas. Valued Senior Member

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    There could be multiple networks. That is how the internet started in the first place, for instance Compuserve and AOL originally were individual Libraries and file repositories where a user could spend all their time in the internal network without actually straying on the the main internet.

    The Internet just means all of those types of private networks, interacting with one another internationally. (Enough inter's)

    TCP/IP protocols (IPv4 and recently IPv6) protocols will remain, the only thing that alters is the Protocol Layering over the top of that. The explaination of the wireless network is just the point you don't have to pay money to an ISP each month if a wireless network is created, since you could download what you want and surf what you want if the person who's network is connected allows it.
     
  12. weed_eater_guy It ain't broke, don't fix it! Registered Senior Member

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    most "underground internet" I've come to know is a guy sending a copied DVD over the net to his friend's house. that and mp3s. really depends how you define "underground internet"
     
  13. Voodoo Child Registered Senior Member

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    Yes. internet(little 'i') refers to inter-networks. Internet(big 'I') refers to the big-ass one use use to view this page.
     
  14. Nebula Occasionally Frequent Registered Senior Member

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    Some parts of the Internet in my city are underground. Many cables are right beneath the street.

    Sorry for that lame joke everyone, but this thread is going nowhere anyway

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  15. spuriousmonkey Banned Banned

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    So, if everybody would connect to the wireless network, could you technically circumvent all phone and land lines? I.E. could you create an internet that is really for free, that there is not the problem that at least one guy has to connect to the 'real' internet, and the rest is basically just taking advantage of that?????
     
  16. hotsexyangelprincess WMD Registered Senior Member

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    haha. I'm an internet music pirate. Once i received a song as an attachment to an email. song won't play. :m:
     
  17. vslayer Registered Senior Member

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    well lets go then, everyone grab a wireless network card and an amplifier-aerial, and lets got the party started.

    (if you live a long way form the city like me, then grab a strainer and put the arial thru the middle of it after amplifieing the signal, it effectively beams the signal at your target)

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  18. Avatar smoking revolver Valued Senior Member

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    And thus was born the Geeknet.
    Network companies accused it of being an anarchitic menace
    and started blocking the wireless. The USA gov. announced that wifi was unpatriotic and was a criminal offence.
    And that time in a hidden bunker below Paris...
     
  19. Xerxes asdfghjkl Valued Senior Member

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    oh - I got it!

    GOPHER!!

    Its a nice little thing, which is unfortunately dying..I don't use it though I probably should
     
  20. Dreamwalker Whatever Valued Senior Member

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    Mmh... I have free wireless internet access in my university.

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  21. vslayer Registered Senior Member

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    so grab their access bridge, amplify the signal to it and watch
     
  22. river-wind Valued Senior Member

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    There is a government internet which uses both it's own wires and public lines; mainly using direct secure connections, and not available to most people. I have run acroos a couple sites now and again via errant links on blogs and such.

    Certainly not part of the World Wide Web as we know it, but it relies on very much the same technology.


    Very similar to the WWW2, designed for institutional research.

    What we really need to do it re-work the design for the second gen WWW; base it on a swarming P2P type design, and avoid Central name-sever type layout we have now...
     
  23. vslayer Registered Senior Member

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    yea, we could have the server at 1.1.1.1 list all the files and and webpages thru a google type search, so you search for say "stampeding elephants" and it will give you the IP of every server with "stampeding elephants" on it, however it wolud rely on some form of central relay computer
     
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