Smells like NAPALM

Smells like napalm, feels like napalm, could it be our troops are coming to such desperate measures as to use banned weapon such as napalm?, no wonder they want NATO out of the way.

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Godless.

 

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That doesn't seem like a reliable reference.

 

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yeah. im not following that. i ckecked elsewhere online, and so no mention of it. :m:

 

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You checked CNN, Fox news, or any American corporate media bullshiet?, you will not find it, it wont be told in Israel newspapers or TV either, however keep your eyes open when the liers just can't keep silent anylonger.

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Ya!! I know it's probaly Arab propaganda right!!?.

You didn't searh hard enough did ya?. click
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So only US news sources are to be believed and reliable right?..

Godless.

 

Well I would not say US news sources are reliable, but I don't see any proof your sources are reliable either.

By the way the MK77 haven’t been used or made since Vietnam and the left over stockpile of these Bombs are degrading and badly in need of maintenance or destruction. To use the weapons again the USA would have to build new ones in secret.
http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/dumb/mk77.htm

 

maybe they're just destroying the old stockpile in the best way possible

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Like I said, keep your eyes and ears open, when u see it on cnn, refer to my speculations that these sources perhaps are telling the truth. BTW. when the pictures of US bodies returning on casket were put on cnn, fox, abc, cbs, nbc, I had already seen these by a margin of two weeks prior to the bs American media. Quess were I got the pics?.

Godless.

 

jihadunspun has the story, the americans are using somenthing that burns after its been washed off, most likely phosphorous

 

White Phosphor Grens i wouldn't be too suprised about.
I've heard lots of "reports" suggesting Fallujan's think that the US were using some kind of Gas or Chemical and depending on the spin this could be anything from Phospour or CS (do they use that shit in war??) to claims of Chemical weapons and now Napalm.

I like to think there is usually some truth behind anything that gets to be as widely reported as these sorts of rumours are spreading but what the exact truth is i just don't know and i'd like to find out.

Who knows maybe its bs, maybe it's a massive spin on the use of Phosphur Grens or just smoke inhalation from massive use of bombs and incendries maybe the US are gassing the damn place there's just nothing specific and reliable enough out there to know at the moment

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"Usually we keep the gloves on," said Army Capt. Erik Krivda, of Gaithersburg, Md., the senior officer in charge of the 1st Infantry Division's Task Force 2-2 tactical operations command center. "For this operation, we took the gloves off."

Some artillery guns fired white phosphorous rounds that create a screen of fire that cannot be extinguished with water. Insurgents reported being attacked with a substance that melted their skin, a reaction consistent with white phosphorous burns.

Kamal Hadeethi, a physician at a regional hospital, said, "The corpses of the mujahedeen which we received were burned, and some corpses were melted."

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2004/11/10/MNG6P9P3ER1.DTL

Yep. Garlic smell and all, as reported by insurgents... nice stuff, tho: :bugeye:

http://www.nsc.org/library/chemical/phsphor.htm

 

I posted a long time ago (well not that long maybe 2 weeks or so

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) that the US was using Napalm in Iraq....I dont know why you guys deny it when even the Goverment(of the US) doesnt:


http://sl.cometsystems.com/r?u=http...inkt&v=21&origin=asearch&src_id=312&tmpl=1Ben

 

No denial, still checking sources here... and matters of definition (see article).

Essentially napalm (in my book anyway) is any mixture of gasoline and simple dish soap (palmolive, indeed) so those incendiaries would indeed be classifiable as such, whether they use fancy newer substances or not.

Horrible stuff indeed, but I wouldn't want that white phosphorous shite tossed at me either. Makes napalm seem pretty innocent by comparison.

People who think this kind of stuff is ok to use, or convenient should have their heads checked. And read about Fritz Haber, the father of all of this crap, maybe. He introduced poison gas in WW I, thinking it would save many lives and shorten the war. On the night before they used it for the first time, after many quarrels, his wife Clara Immerwahr - a great chemist in her own right - hung herself.

He was the first to be ever called to trial for war crimes. And his being Jewish, in the light of the later use of such gases in WWII, highly ironic and tragic.

 

Just for the information -> I think that the first biological (not chemical) weapons were used by the mongols when invading Europe. They catapulted bodies of dead plague victims in towns under siege, so the plague killed and demoralized the population of those towns.

 

I think tossing dead animals in wells probably goes back to neolithic times, since it's also a naturally occurring phenomenon that you just have to exploit...

Anyway:

Biological weapons, which include ones for germ warfare, are actually much older than chemical weapons. Toxins were used as poisons on arrows by aboriginal South Americans and by other neolithic peoples. As is frequently noted in the literature, in the sixth century B.C.E. Assyrians poisoned wells with a fungus disease and in the fourteenth century C.E. a Tatar army that was attacking a city in what is now the Ukraine catapulted the plague-ridden corpses of their own troops over the city’s castle walls. Some researchers charge that in the fifteen century C.E. the English intentionally spread smallpox to reduce American Indian tribes hostile to British rule.

http://www.uncc.edu/wcgay/pubmassdestruct.htm

 

Very interesting. Thanx for the information. I didn't realise poisoned arrows as biological weapons.

p.s. about napalm.. I think the first historical analogy would be the "greek fire" which the greeks used together with the first flame throwers against enemy ships. The fire couldn't be estinguished by water and it glued itself to the wood.

 

first of all Napam is not a poison gas and napam is not white phos.... your sorces seem to be very confused. One says that when napam touches a human they melt. thats not true I have touched napam it does not melt me unless it is of fire. Second its not any more poisones then jet fuel or palistiren that you drink your hot drinks out of. Now white phos is much naster stuff then napam in my books. napam will burn you to a crisp but if your near water you can jump in and it goes out. But White phos burns with out air so there is no excape from it tell it burns out. You have to cut out any white phos that touches you or it will burn though you.


here how about a Improved fire bomb? take your strip tank of normal napam then add white phos to the mix. Then in the middle of the bomb put a hardened steel tube that is filled with thermite and magnisem. then have a smaller pipe inside that full of some high order explosive. now put a proximity fuse on the bomb so as it nears the ground but before hiting it ignites the thermite which burns up to 6,000 C this heats the jet fuel making it enter a gas form. on contact with ground the core of High order explosives goes off blowing open the hardend core full of burning thermite and the outer skin.
when the air rushes in it causes a vapor explosion sucking all the O2 out of the imeditate area wile also tossing the napam gel all over the place with thermite and white phos still burning because they dont need o2. Then when the 02 comes back the gel starts to burn agine.


More or less this is a combination of a vapor fuel oil bomb and normal nap and white phos. So if the blast dont get you and the loss of O2 don't get you the fire storm that follows when the O2 comes back will. That is if your lucky anuff to not get the thermite or white phos on you from the start.

 

Actually White phosphorus does need oxygen to burn its just that is burns so readily with oxygen.
http://www.cci.ethz.ch/experiments/P4-Luft/en/vertiefung/1.html

 

So put simply why use banned "chemical weapons" when they can legally use far deadlier weapons with the same if not worse effect though as far as i'm concerned given the targets weapons that should still but don't cause as much outrage.

Though the symptoms of some of these weapons i can understand people seeing or being hit by the effects could thing how the f**k is this a leagal weapon it must be some kind of chemical or gas or something and there start the reports.

I still think the Use of this shit on Civilian centers is should be as much a war crime as using napalm or whatever else they are being accused of but it's not and they know it.

 

you where right about the white phos but it still would start right back up when the air came back and it takes o2 from water or i guess thats where it gets it because jumping in water with white phos on you dont stop it.



as for napam being a chem weapon its not its gas and stirine thats it ... get a grip....

 

These pseudo-religious neo-cons will surely burn in hell for their inhuman tactics against the Iraqi people, with the use of napalm and torture, they are no better than Saddam.