Counter Insurgency Run-Amok

Discussion in 'World Events' started by surenderer, Nov 18, 2004.

  1. surenderer Registered Senior Member

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    The people who are doing the beheadings are extremists ... the people slaughtering Iraqis - torturing in prisons and shooting wounded prisoners - are 'American heroes'. Congratulations, you must be so proud of yourselves today."
    - Iraqi girl blogger Riverbend



    Whom are you going to trust: Fallujah civilians who risked their lives to escape, witnesses such as Associated Press photographer Bilal Hussein, hospital doctors, Amnesty International, top United Nations human-rights official Louise Arbour, the International Committee of the Red Cross; or the Pentagon and US-installed Iraqi Prime Minister Iyad Allawi?

    On the humanitarian front, Fallujah is a tragedy. The city has virtually been reduced to rubble. Remaining residents, the Red Cross confirms, are eating roots and burying the dead in their gardens. There's no medicine in the hospitals to help anybody. The wounded are left to die in the streets - their remains to be consumed by packs of stray dogs. As Iraqresistance.net, a Europe-wide collective, puts it, "World governments, international organizations, nobody raises a finger to stop the killing." The global reaction is apathy...



    http://www.islamicity.com/m/selectednews.asp?id=17674
     
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  3. Insanely Elite Questions reality. Registered Senior Member

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    The horror.

    I had to leave the news for a while. Have they begun the Mosul assault yet? If anybody truely supports this crime of occupation please explain your take on why you support the pentagons continued refusal to count civilian deaths. The UN will do it soon enough and there will be no media coverage of it. While you're talking of supporting this Iraq debacle please list why you are not there. Uncle Sam needs you. Are you 17-30? Please show us the courage of your convictions by enlisting. US is hiring young enthusiasts for this 'liberation', the rolls are falling short of target. Hurry now and beat the draft.
     
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  5. surenderer Registered Senior Member

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    http://www.realcities.com/mld/krwashington/10207435.htm :m:
     
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  7. Roman Banned Banned

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    I don't support the war, but logical fallacies like this really get me:

    If the USA could indesciminately kill because we we're mandated by God (like the insurgents may), Fallujah would be easily taken. Insurgent stronghold? Now it's rubble.
     
  8. Barkhorn1x Registered Senior Member

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    I really didn't want to post today - too busy - but then there was this.

    Yea sure - 200 hundred dead marines and the Pentagon could hide it? Only 100 dead TERRORISTS??

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    You quite obviously have NO concept of modern warfare fo you?

    Hey "Al Jazeera" guy, go peddle your defeatist propaganda on "Arab Street".

    Barkhorn.
     
  9. Vortexx Skull & Bones Spokesman Registered Senior Member

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    Agreed with Barkhorn on this one, arab propaganda is a much more pompous than american prop.
     
  10. hypewaders Save Changes Registered Senior Member

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    ...And they're either with us or against us. Be all you can be: An army of 1. Or the Proud, the...(BLAM!) Fewer: Hua! The enemy is just a bunch of pussies, and the complainers at home are liberal wussies: When we kill enough of 'em (foreigners first, of course) they'll start to want to deal with us politely. Until then, let's all join hands and sing, boys and girls:

    Fallujah, Ramallah,
    Ooooooooh, I wanna take ya
    Baquba, Ben Ghazi,
    Bring on Kamikazes

    So shutup, you pussy
    Form up, fall out, wussy
    Destroy it, to save it
    To pump it out, or pave it

    Or we could go to the Koreas...
     
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  11. Insanely Elite Questions reality. Registered Senior Member

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    hypewaders,

    Man you're too cool.
     
  12. towards Relax...head towards the light Registered Senior Member

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    "Insurgent stronghold? Now it's rubble", Roman

    I completely agree with this point. Those who believe that the U.S. does not care about civilian casualties should consider how easily the American troops could take care of the problem in Fallujah if there was no concern for the people that live there. What makes fighting the guerillas difficult is the fact that the intentionally blend in with the populace, and the soldiers must take that into carefull consideration.
     
  13. hypewaders Save Changes Registered Senior Member

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    Blend in? Don't you understand, they are the populace.
     
  14. towards Relax...head towards the light Registered Senior Member

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    "Don't you understand, they are the populace", Hypewaders

    The majority of the insurgents are ex-military and Baathist elements, many who abused their own people under Sadam. Even if the populace does not support the war, they are not necessarily shooting at the americans.
     
  15. hypewaders Save Changes Registered Senior Member

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    Or just "dead-enders" as Rumsfeld would have us to believe. Just about every Iraqi you meet in the wake of recent events wishes we were not there, which is to also mean they wish it that we leave in the near future. Meanwhile, and anticipating the revelation in the West of this reality, a new collapse of order is presently commencing in Iraq, just as the multifaceted Iraqi resistance is finding its sustainable form, and the next (post-American) phase of sectarian fighting is revving up. The long, ugly, bloody scourge of the Iraqi Civil War emerges just ahead. Haram, Americans.
     

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