Maker of religiously critical film shot dead

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  1. path Militant wiseguy Registered Senior Member

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    A critic pays the price

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    story

    Do you feel it is tragic? Did he get what he deserved?

    What kind of faith is it that cannot endure criticism?
     
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  3. Bruce Wayne . Registered Senior Member

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    Dude, having naked women perform prayer with Qur'anic texts on her body and calling Allah a pimp is not criticism.

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  5. audible un de plusieurs autres Registered Senior Member

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    no it's called art, and you dont get shot for it.
     
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  7. path Militant wiseguy Registered Senior Member

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    So he got what he deserved then?
     
  8. path Militant wiseguy Registered Senior Member

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    Obviously you are wrong. you DO in fact get shot for it.
     
  9. Bruce Wayne . Registered Senior Member

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    No it is called a very grave insult to the core of a believe of some individuals that take their religion very very seriously.

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  10. path Militant wiseguy Registered Senior Member

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    Sort of like Andreas Serrano's work.

    So he got what he deserved then for insulting someones beliefs?
     
  11. audible un de plusieurs autres Registered Senior Member

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    yes, would seem so, path.

    bruce we live in a free world, to say do as we please, this is not a crime, and certainly does not need a sentence of death, beat him up, slap a libel suit on him, spit on him, but dont kill.
    it makes your religion, evil in everyone elses eyes
     
  12. Bruce Wayne . Registered Senior Member

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    I would not have had him killed, if only because the ammo it will give stormfront-troopers like path here. But I can't say I don't feel sad he got it. He went very far. he could have been a active racist, he could have killed Muslims, he could have visciously attacked Islam like many others have done. But he pushed it too far. As I said, there much difference between, opposition, criticism, hatred, and what he has done.

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  13. Bruce Wayne . Registered Senior Member

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    Again -concerning the title of the thread- the film was not critical. It was pure insult.

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  14. Bruce Wayne . Registered Senior Member

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    To Muslims this is much worse than Abu Ghraib.

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  15. path Militant wiseguy Registered Senior Member

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    So basically if you could have killed him and gotten away without giving your faith a bad name you would have. And you are calling ME a stormtrooper

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    Which he obviously wasn't.

    Which he didn't, quite the contrary.

    So he did none of the things you mentioned above but a 10 minute film critical of islams treatment of women crossed the line huh?

    You haven't fully explained yourself.
     
  16. path Militant wiseguy Registered Senior Member

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    Then allah is an insecure weakling. (should I hide now?)
     
  17. Bruce Wayne . Registered Senior Member

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    No, I will just laugh at you (more than usual).

    (And secretly seek to convert

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    your childeren to Islam, thereby flunging you into a deep existential crisis. I know, I am evil huh??

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  18. path Militant wiseguy Registered Senior Member

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    Can we get a christian take on this? Imagine it was Andreas Serrano standing in front of you and you have a gun. What do you do?
    If you aren't familiar with him this is how he expresses his distaste for christianity
     
  19. path Militant wiseguy Registered Senior Member

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    Sorry Bruce I am not raising drones

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    and it is flinging
     
  20. everneo Re-searcher Registered Senior Member

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    What did he try to convey through such scenes? Did he know people get killed for writing koranic script at odd places? whether it his right or not, it was his life he was playing with. When he is crude with someone's sentiments he can't expect gentleness back.
     
  21. path Militant wiseguy Registered Senior Member

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    They were trying to convey the idea that women bear the marks\scars of the faith on their bodies (not a bad attempt either).

    I think he foolishly assumed that he was living in western europe and that sort of thing doesn't happen there.

    Hey while we are at it lets get the monty python crew for "Life of Brian" and the makers of "Last temptation of Christ" etc etc.
    and all those other folks who disagree with or leave our belief systems.
     
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  22. fadeaway humper that way lies madness Registered Senior Member

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    I really hope that double negative isn't unintended.
     
  23. everneo Re-searcher Registered Senior Member

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    That may be fine with western audience. Will not work for folks for whom nudity is 'unmodest'.

    You are right :

    I think he foolishly assumed that he was living in western europe and that sort of thing doesn't happen there.



    It is well known that christians are not allowed to react violently, they can pray for them for forgiveness!

    It is also well known that with muslims such silly symbolism would not work but would evoke a different response ranging from strong protest to killing. The purpose of conveying the message (if that was his intention) is already lost since he misfired, it hit muslims at a different but more sensitive place. He could have done that in a different manner.
     

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