The Latest Bin Laden Video Tape Is A Fraud

Yeah , right ! And whilst your at it George tell us the one about Saddam's nuclear weapons again ! Yet another “Osama and really, this time we mean it “ tape surfaces. Look back and recall that the LAST time the media claimed to have a tape of Osama confessing to 9-11, the tape turned out to be a fake. In the current case of the tape released , I observed this Osama's nose seems wider and flatter at the tip than the previous Osama’s. If you are adept , look at the new Osama's left hand, which appears perfectly normal. The real Osama reportedly suffered major injuries to his left hand and arm at Tora Bora.

 

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Where can I see video of this tape?

 

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Can you post reference to all these claims? If they were going to make a fake I think they would have done a better job if all the things your claim were true.

 

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Well the left hand/shoulder thing is supposedly true:



http://g.msn.com/9SE/1?http://www-c...0e371ad4c99abb0c19cb1a4b29c&POS=4&CM=WPU&CE=4

 

Is his hand modulated or paralyzed?, in this video did he move his hand?

 

I saw this tape on TV I imagine if you were to go to any of the major media sites they would have it .

 

What do you mean these are my own observances , as for his left arm it appears as though it is undamged , contrary to reports of serious wounds .

 

I did not say it was your own observations, why else would I be asking for references?

 

Ya I saw the video also and he points with his left hand and everything......he also looks remarkably well for someone who is supposed to been living in a cave and that has kidney disease my personal oberservations of this lead me to believe (again this is only me) that either A. he has been well taken care of....or B. that aint him :m:

 

Ok sounds agreeable, so who made the fake and why, Al-Qaeda or the mush administration?

 

image on cnn. I see what you mean.

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http://i.a.cnn.net/cnn/2004/WORLD/meast/10/29/bin.laden.transcript/story.binladen.jazeera.jpg

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bin Laden Transcript

I would like to read the whole thing... if anyone has seen a complete transcript.

I don't think this will have any effect on the election - though it is interesting to read some of the motivational details from the horse's mouth , as it were.

We sure as hell won't hear Bush or Kerry actually DISCUSS any of the points bin Laden makes in his speech.

 

Follow up:

According to CNN: "The total length of the tape received by the U.S. government is 18 minutes. Bin Laden spoke for 14 minutes and 39 seconds. U.S. officials would not comment on what else is on the tape."

I wonder what was on the other three minutes and 21 seconds.

Al Jazeera reports (http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/973F1229-454F-4384-BF08-1D86A911DDF7.htm):

"Bin Ladin said millions of tonnes of bombs and explosives fell on Iraqi children, under the order of George Bush, just for the sake of ousting an old agent and replacing him by a new agent to help plunder Iraqi oil wealth."

Now, I did not see this bit in the transcripts published in the western press.

 

That's not Bin Laden.

Why? It's not his style of sermon. I'm out of time to post, but you can do some very fast research on your own: Google up English transcripts of his credibly authenticated videos, (videos only, 3+ years old- there are several). Here, (from my fast review of this excerpt) you find a structured sermon structured very differently, so differently you can tell it's not our favorite Bad Guy. Directed unwaveringly at unbelievers (no words to the faithful), all business, no Allah (not containing long passages quotting al-Qur'an, and conspicuously lacking reference, beseechment, and submission to the One God).

Completely out of character, "Me" and "I" are used so much more often than "God" in this political speech- the difference is obvious. All those who can recognize these fundamentals (isms), I apologize for insulting your intelligence with such infantile analysis. I've gotta go. And if I were Bin Laden, I would now go back and generously ladle in some effusive religiosity into my message, to ensure my message is passed through the Muslim News Network (mosques worldwide) before clicking "reply". Peace be upon you all, for the One Consciousness, for us, wills it thusly.

 

Good observation hypewaders, please PM me with more information.

Why is Osama Bin Laden going to contradict himself? He did deny having any involvement in the 9/11 attacks, he talks now close to the elections? I don't buy it.

 

Exactly. It's interesting thoug, because it isn't from the neocons. There's too much detail about the real world, that they are not interested promulgating.

So the question is:

Who?
Gotta go (& I personally don't PM, M-16 sorry)

 

If you check Bin Laden's other statements, they're clearly a contrast. I don't know, but the tape isn't holding up.

this article has a nice theory - http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=topNews&storyID=6666195

 

Well I dont think it is Al Queda because what Bin Laden says goes against his previous statements (not being invloved in 9-11)


http://g.msn.com/9SE/1?http://www.p...fce9a21440caa8fee4fca96afc1&POS=1&CM=WPU&CE=1


I dont know if the Bush Administration has anything to do with it or not but Bush is running on the promise that Kerry wont keep the Country safe from terrorism and then a Bin Laden tape comes out 4 days before the election with Bin Laden promising attacks against the country..........so one could connect those dots I guess

 

Of course Bin Laden coming out and taunting Bush is major hit on Bush's campain because Bush has not managed to kill or capture the guy!

 

Something else is suspicous. He said he was motivated by the events of 1982. Yet, he was on the cia payroll till the defeat of the soviet invasion. (correct me if I am wrong, I don't know his past that well)

Also I found the towers for towers reasoning too shallow.

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