What is a "hate site"?

I heard this term here today and it seemed funny to me, dividing the world into "hate" and "non-hate."

Here are some examples. Which of these are "hate sites"?

[links removed]

I'm curious to see what your answers will be.

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[deleted] qualifies; their editorial tone is impossible to miss.

[deleted] seems to be. I mean, I don't care, for any moral value, that Jews were involved in the slave trade. It's almost inevitable that it should be so, given the history of Europe in general.

The Nazi site is, quite clearly, a hate site.

Submission doesn't seem to be at the outset, but since you included it I should mention that I haven't viewed every damn page at any of these sites.

[deleted]fags ... yeah. That guy has a problem.

These assessments, likewise ... :m:

 

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Those all seem like hate sites to me, except the Submission site didn't have such content in anything I could find. Their site condemns violent Jihad and such. I'm no apologist for any religious beLIEfs - and there certainly are Islamic hate sites (just like Christian and everything else), this doesn't seem to be one though.

 

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Amusing.

None of these are "hate" sites.
Every last one of these people you find marching behind slogans and isms would fizzle up and die all alone.
This isn't as much hate as it is conformity in disguise, a needy disease all weaklings with no cause to keep them alive fuckng suffer from.

The Nazi, the Czech, the neo-Bolshevik, the feminist, the mullah- none of them 'hate'. They love the alliance of other cowards to "hate" with.

That said, I hate you all.

 

I agree with Gendanken on every point.

 

Do you include pagans in that category?

 

I can't speak for the rest of the sites (which I haven't checked out particularly thoroughly yet) but since you hit on my area of expertise, [deleted] certainly is a hate site. When you've got a page put up by people who get together every Sunday to blame 4 Florida hurricanes hitting Florida on homosexuals before getting down to the business of protesting funerals of homosexuals, while posting advertisements of how long this or that homosexual who died of AIDS has been burning in hell. . . yeah I think it's safe to say that these people are a little out of touch and frankly hateful.

Also, gendanken, do you mean to imply that there's no such thing as a group with an ideology? It's a rather stupidly obvious to point out that these people band together and find some sense of solidarity in their groups, but then you completely ignore anything beyond that. Your assessment is entirely inadequate and really just sort of blind and dopey.

 

Neoclassical:

Of course I do.

Any category where a human's personality no longer is.
I know why you asked, and I'm not.

Mystech:

Not really.
Maintaining a website to exaggerate ridicule is a study in entertainment and shock value, not hate.

But is it nearly as dopey as the moron who, like you, is so stuck in herd mentality he can't even get what I'm saying?

Killing you slowly for years with arsenic and relishing every last hair that falls from your emaciated body is hate.
Blind rage is hate.
Joining some party or group is hiding and comfort in numbers.

 

What charge exactly are you trying to level against Pagans, feminists and similar groups here? You're making very little sense. Because some groups get together for political reasons or a sense of community this means that the members cease to be individuals in your eyes? Or do you falsely accuse members of such groups of giving up their individuality? Just because they all seem alike to you doesn't mean that they really are. . . just that you're stupid and lazy and unwilling to consider their angle as human beings with an idiology that demands action.

Congratulations on being the single most dense person I have ever talked to online. I've been here on sciforums for a long time, and this has to be one of the single stupidest quotes I've ever heard.

The people at Westborow Baptist Church in Topeka Kansas are not some sort of early morning Radio shock jocks looking to pull pranks and get humorous reactions out of people who think their intentions are genuine. This is not a parody site, these people are genuine in their message, and legitimately believe that Homosexuals are the scourge of the world, and need to die.

Herd mentality? I'm sorry, could you explain that a bit further? Up until this point I've understood your message rather clearly, but have trouble believing that you're actually saying it.

Thanks for making my point for me. Terse, but concise and to the point.

 

I know that this whole thread is rather asinine, but could we get some sort of statement to James R about why he thought it necessary to remove reference to the links which were posted? It simply doesn’t seem to be the most intuitive move in a situation like this. I'm sure his reasons, as usual, make fine sense, but a bit of clarification would help me out some.

 

I don't want to stir up trouble, but I've posted links to Westboro Baptist and Stormfront before. But maybe it was the context. I've used them as examples of things that I disapprove of in the strongest sense possible.

Neoclassical has evidently been warned about this. I briefly checked out his Scott Peterson thread and the website linked, which is now his signature. It is a distasteful site displaying sympathy for Scott Peterson, and suggesting that murder ought to be an acceptable way to deal with people you find annoying. I'm assuming this has something to do with that.

 

So, Neoclassical - does Neoclassical really = NeoNazi? Now before you go off on some angry-boy spew here, I'm not judging. Just honestly curious. I've lived in 11 states and 3 countries (including Germany) and kind of thought that such folks still existing was mostly the fodder of TV shows and maybe a few deep south armpits of towns.

 

No, it's not. I've seen this clearly from the beginning.

The truth is you abuse free speech in the first place, putting up all those ridiculous sites that advocate violence. James R exercises his censorship in the interests of the majority of the people in sciforums.

Want proof of that? Post another poll. I've already seen the previous results.

Your views are too extreme. The reasons are too numerous to list.

 

Mod Hat - Update & Advisory

Mod Hat - Update & Advisory

At this time I choose to defer to JamesR, who has been addressing this situation at large. While I personally have no objection to a comparative examination of the underlying issues of what is or is not a hate site, this situation treads beyond the borders of the EM&J forum, and it's not too much to ask for a working thesis in order to establish intent other than--such as the case at hand--an attempt to carry out a specific agenda already deemed thematically inappropriate.

Additionally, seeing as how we now have no topic post, this topic is closed.

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