The future of metal

Discussion in 'Art & Culture' started by neoclassical, Oct 20, 2004.

  1. neoclassical Banned Banned

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    Over time metalheads gain enough experience and insight to realize that, with a few exceptions, the metal genre is unthinking slobs slashing out three chord rock and pretending that somehow it is more "profound" than other rock music. This has reached its peak in black metal, where the crowd who believe that socialization is more important than music content now impress each other with new aesthetic recombinations of the same old, same old.

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  3. Fraggle Rocker Staff Member

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    Don't diss one genre because all of rock and roll is going through a dry spell. Iron Butterfly's "Unconscious Power" was arguably the first heavy metal song identified as such, and it had more chords than Beethoven. Deep Purple, Led Zeppelin, Black Sabbath, Blue Oyster Cult, Robin Trower, none of those founders of metal played three-chord rock like Buddy Holly and Elvis.

    Sure Ratt and Slaughter came along, but so did Def Leppard. I still can't get some of their chords to come out of my guitar. Audioslave is the king of the genre today, and they not only have more harmonic dynamics than anybody, but also tone dynamics. Their music will not be as easily covered by the next generation of garage bands as the Rolling Stones.

    Metallica and Velvet Revolver don't think they're more profound than Radiohead and Fiona Apple. They're just being profound in a different way. And sometimes they all let their hair down and just play for fun.
     
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  5. caffeine_fubar Dark Dementia is my name... Registered Senior Member

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    Godsmack RULES! They are f***ing awesome... Rob Zombie, White Zombie, Powerman5000, Metallica, Korn, Coal Chamber, Nine inch nails, Avenged Sevenfold... they all rule.
     
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  7. Tiassa Let us not launch the boat ... Valued Senior Member

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    Monster Magnet. Nothing comes close.
     
  8. Star_One Registered Senior Member

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    I used to love Metallica and other metal bands (accept "Nu-Metal of course) but now i find myself only likeing the sub genre's like Prog/Power/Neo-classical,Space,Fantasy,Symphonic etc....

    The above "genres" are the type of music ive always been looking for, but didnt know they existed till i got into metal, so thanks metal

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    But Progressive and Power metal is where it is at now!!!!
     
  9. vslayer Registered Senior Member

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    pm5k and metallica are empty
    their lyrics have ne meaning
    they are simply overproduced generic metal
     
  10. Dreamwalker Whatever Valued Senior Member

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    Well, I will keep to Blind Guardian, one of the best power metal bands ever. But hey, I know some good and pretty innovative metal bands, but they are only local ones...perhaps they will get famous some day.

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    But there is a future, you just have to search for good music.
     
  11. vslayer Registered Senior Member

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    8 foot sativa is pretty good, the first album sounds prettymuch the same on all tracks but the second album is good
     
  12. Fraggle Rocker Staff Member

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    If you want to discover some metal that is so trashy it's camp, check out Drain sth, their second (I guess) album, "Freaks of Nature." It's an all-girl Swedish goth-metal band that's about as real as the Monkees and just as much fun. Pure formula, slick production, tight harmonies, power chords lifted straight from Korn. Lyrics that span the entire downer spectrum from mere despair to frelling leeches! All sung with a sultry-scary accent like Abba on meth. Sounds like the music they play on the elevators in Hell, hehe. Great fun, good for a road trip or a theme party. Somebody really put a lot of work into it and it shows.
     
  13. Dreamwalker Whatever Valued Senior Member

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    Eek, I have seen them already... I would like to meet them one time, and leave with a blood dripping chainsaw.

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  14. Avatar smoking revolver Valued Senior Member

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    the best blackmetal imho is EMPEROR, ILDJARN, IMMORTAL, LIMBONIC ART
     
  15. Dreamwalker Whatever Valued Senior Member

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    This is the wrong thread for black metal only.

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    This reminds me, not long ago I was browsing the hard and heavy CD section of a local store and some kiddies appear beside me. One of them said:"Look, the new Slipknot album... you have to buy this, those guys are so cool and their music is really evil and they are the best and so on..." I could not help but laugh at them. Slipknot sounds so faked, I advised that it would be much better to buy a Pantera, Children of Bodom or Cannibal Corpse CD, much better stuff...but of course, the little idiots never heard of those bands. So they bought this great Slipknot CD.

    Food for the masses...errr, I mean maggots.
     
  16. Avatar smoking revolver Valued Senior Member

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    Slipknot totally sucks
    their "music" and "lyrics" is suited for stupid teenagers at most

    p.s. I'm proud that I started with good black metal (Skyforger) and not some nushit :m:
     
  17. curdt Registered Member

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    I personally enjoy Slipknot. However, their old stuff is so much better than Subliminal Verses 3. They've softened so much. Even some acoustic songs. The price to pay to make it mainstream I suppose. I like all music though. Every genre. People can't believe that one CD collection contains Children of Bodom, Good Charlotte, Phil Collins, The Casualties, Ashlee Simpson, Skinny Puppy, Eminem, and The Beatles. Among many more of course.

    I'm going to a Bodom show and a Skinny Puppy show in a couple of weeks. Can't wait.
     
  18. Dreamwalker Whatever Valued Senior Member

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    Heh, perhaps Slipknot is good, but they sound like a bad version of Pantera, so I would conclude that Pantera is better.

    Also, I think that the new Slipknot album sounds better than the older ones, but they are sounding somewhat fake and soft all the time. And Slipknot was always mainstream

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    Who's Ashlee Simpson if I may ask?
     
  19. nbachris2788 Registered Senior Member

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    Ashlee Simpson is Jessica Simpson's younger sister.
     
  20. Dreamwalker Whatever Valued Senior Member

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    So? Then who is Jessica Simpson?
     
  21. curdt Registered Member

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    Yes, Slipknot was always mainstream, but their videos were rarely played in a "prime" timeslot. They were also rarely on talk shows like Conan and Kimmel until SV3. To me, it matters not how "mainstream" an artist or band is. If I like them, I listen. I just don't like when artists/bands change to become mainstream. Not to say Slipknot softened to become mainstream; I heard that a few of them are in love and whatnot.
     
  22. curdt Registered Member

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    Another blonde pop star. More virginal than Britney. Hit TV show "Newlyweds" with her husband Nick Lachey, boy band sensation. I don't like her. Just Ashlee. Even Ashlee is iffy sometimes though.
     
  23. Dr Lou Natic Unnecessary Surgeon Registered Senior Member

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    Nobody truely likes a genre of music. They get lured into a genre, they might "agree" with it or some such trivial thing, or "want to be the guy who's a metal fan" and then force themselves to only like songs from that genre, many of which they don't really like as much as they like Jojo's "get out(leave)", but they would never admit to liking Jojo, not even to themselves. They're a metal fan, they have established that about themselves.

    I've been there, I "liked" punk and punished my poor ears with nofx, and so on and etc. I tried to find "my" genre as stupid teenagers do.
    Now I like songs. I've realised the odds of one artist bringing out more than one song I like are incredibly slim. It's happened a couple of times, but it's rare. A genre being consistently satisfying will never happen.
    The song that makes someone or a band famous is usually ok, then they are given a permit to make shit. There are exceptions, and genuinely talented people/bands, but there is no talented genre.

    You'll find the truely great bands either don't fit a genre or invented one.
    Bands that fit genres can only make money because teenagers and wannabe cool adults decide to like genres, to become the "punk fan" (for example) and then randomly pick whats available from within that genre, coming up with little reasons why they like these guys and not those guys so they seem legit.
    Keep in mind this is all subconscious, there are people who truely believe their favourite band is "a simple plan" and they have seriously thought up reasons why a simple plan is better than "sum 41", "even though sum 41 still rock". You know, they could talk to you about this subject like an expert. They've worked hard to trick themselves into liking a simple plan.
    Even though I'm sure scientists could prove that no member of the homo sapien species could possibly actually like a simple plan's music, not 1 person would honestly like a simple plan, this I am sure of.
    They were just put on the shelf and people needed a band so they grabbed one.

    I'm not a red hot chilli peppers fan, but off the top of my head they're a good example of the real deal who deserve to be recording artists. I actually hate U2 but they also fit into this category. People legitimately liked their music and thats how they became famous.
    They aren't genres, they're just bands. I'm sure plenty of people grabbed them off the shelf too, but they became a product in the first place because they were talented. Not because they fitted into a genre which had proven to sell records.
     

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