Crying

Discussion in 'Human Science' started by caffeine_fubar, Sep 15, 2004.

  1. caffeine_fubar Dark Dementia is my name... Registered Senior Member

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    I have a question for all you geniuses...

    If someone were to not cry for 2 years, and cannot cry even during stressful and emotional times, what the hell is going on? I havent cried in 2 years, and a lot of the time, i feel like im about to, then it stops and nothing can come out. I just go into a yawning frenzy. WTF
     
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  3. cosmictraveler Be kind to yourself always. Valued Senior Member

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    Seems that you can control your emotions better than most people, It is a good and bad thing. I wouldn't worry to much for perhaps nothing that has happened to you or your loved ones has brought about the need to cry.
     
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  5. Xev Registered Senior Member

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    Do you throw yourself upon a bed of grass and yawn?

    Interesting question.
    The tears we cry when we are sad are chemically different from those we cry when our eyes are irritated - by onions, tear gas, particles, whatever.
    Nobody really knows why we cry during times of strong emotion. Some scientists hypothesize that we cry to expel the hormones that, in abundance, have produced our abundant emotional reaction.

    There is a condition under which a person is, for unknown reasons, unable to produce tears during times of emotional duress. But this condition is present from birth and has other effects, so I doubt that explains your case.

    A few questions:

    You cried before, but then stopped for two years? Stopped as in - never ever cried?

    Purposefully or did you stop without conscious intent?

    Are you male or female? Women have higher levels of the hormone involved in secreting tears - nobody knows why this is, but it may be a side-effect of the hormone's other role, which is to inspire the secretion of breast milk - in any case, men are physiologically less prone to tears.

    It is possible that not crying for years - two? - changed your hormonal makeup so that it is more difficult to produce tears.
    I went through a year and a half long period of not crying once (I am female and consciously chose not to cry) but was never unable to cry afterwords.

    cosmictraveler:
    Crying has nothing to do with emotional control. A person can be emotionally out of control yet not shed tears, and a person can shed tears and be in control of their emotions.

    If certain theories as to why we cry are correct, the person who sheds tears is likely more emotionally stable than the person who does not.
     
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  7. water the sea Registered Senior Member

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    In Goleman's "Emotional intelligence" I've read about people who are emotionally disabled. While they are normal in aspects of being rational, they lack emotions. Sometimes, this is connected to metabolical disorders in the brain, and the reason for this lack of emotions can be biological; ie. not something the individual could actively influence or control.
     
  8. TruthSeeker Fancy Virtual Reality Monkey Valued Senior Member

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    I've had the same for a long time. I think that happens because you are aware of the fact that you will start to cry. If you let it go and don't be focused on your eyes, you are going to cry. For instance, I cried when I came to Canada again, last time, cause I missed my mom. But I basically allowed myself to miss her and to cry. I hadn't cried for about 2 or 3 years.
     
  9. Hypercane Sustained Winds at Mach One Registered Senior Member

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    I cried in high school when my motivation for the armed drill team. Haha.
     
  10. Athelwulf Rest in peace Kurt... Registered Senior Member

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    If ye'r not crying during stressful and emotional times, maybe those times aren't stressful or emotional enough to bring ya to the threshhold. Either that, or ya've been emotionally "numbed". Maybe something happened in yer mind so that ya don't react to emotional pain in the form of crying.

    Next time ya feel like crying, and it is in an appropriate setting, just let it out. Trust me, ya'll feel better afterward.
     
  11. caffeine_fubar Dark Dementia is my name... Registered Senior Member

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    God i wish i could let it out... its impossible. I figured its part of the fact of the way i view humans... they can bother me, but never push me over the edge due to the fact i see no reason to. Humans, in my opinion, are ignorant beings who do not even understand the way they are speaking. They dont understand what they are saying.

    Why should i cry over something that is skin and bones? Something that makes no difference.

    (This post is a little odd... But its worth reading anyways. Check out my other post on Human Security..)
     
  12. Xev Registered Senior Member

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    *Sighs*
    Another one bites the dust.

    Gosh, aren't you just so intense and gothic.

    I might point out that it is tautological to state "I cannot cry during stressful and emotional times" because "I see no reason to" and treat your inability to cry when you do not feel like crying as a problem, but that's just me.

    Not really. Being an interesting question might have made it worth reading, but since it is neither interesting nor a question, it is not really worth reading.
     
  13. caffeine_fubar Dark Dementia is my name... Registered Senior Member

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    Thanks... When i said skin and bones, i meant more in the way: Why are we afraid to do things, or have petty worries over things that make us unable to accomplish what we are attempting to do. There is no reason to worry, because in some ways, it doesnt make a difference, and tomorrow you could feel the same as today even if you did do it. (Whatever it be)

    Yes, it did sound a little... yah =D
     
  14. EvilSquirrel Interesting Infidel Registered Senior Member

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    Well, why would you ask such a strange question if you don't seem worried that you can't cry? I mean, I haven't in so long...But I don't think its something we actually need to do..Well atleast noone has proven it yet. From your responces it seems like you're pretty laid back and have a worry-free situation so in other words..You're in perfect emotion balance whereas most of everybody else is still in their "normal" choatic fits. It doesn't really surprize me what emotionla wrecks people are considering our veiwpoints on society today..

    [In other words: People who actually care over the stupid little things have tendancies to well act different towards stress and saddening situations.]
     
  15. caffeine_fubar Dark Dementia is my name... Registered Senior Member

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    I understand that, but i used to cry every day almost... it just stopped all of a sudden. Didnt think much of it at first until i realized that it has been over 2 years...
     
  16. Xev Registered Senior Member

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    caffeine_fubar:
    Okay, fine I was over-harsh. I agree with your assessment of the situation - why cry about people when they mean so little to one?
    On the other hand, your adolescent tripe about how little people mean to you is inconsistant with people actually meaning little to you, and is boring besides.

    EvilSquirrel:
    There are suggestions that crying reduces the amount of excess hormones caused by stress, thus is helpful when one is stressed.
    But of course, if one is not stressed then one needn't cry. And there are other ways of releasing those excess hormones - urination, perspiration, etc.

    True, but at least those people can use English consistantly well.
     
  17. EvilSquirrel Interesting Infidel Registered Senior Member

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    Ah, but see..they are SUGGESTIONS. They aren't proven as of many of things. It's only a suggestion or theory. You really have nothing to base it on exscept for someone else's word.

    Pardon my bad typing, new contact perscription and typing in the dark. Not as if I need to exsplain myself to you.
     
  18. Mrs.Lucysnow Valued Senior Member

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    I went through a long period...very long...where I wasn't crying at all. A situation would arise and I could feel the emotion bringing on tears but still I wouldn't cry. It became an issue when I realized that numbing tears also numbed other feelings and crying became a symbol of being able to express a variety of emotions so I could feel more alive. I have managed to overcome my fear of tears but that doesn't mean it makes me feel comfortable...I still on some level equate it with weakness but I see this more as family conditioning.

    Xev: Women may be more prone to tears but I recently befriended a male who cried through the films Gia and Life Without Me. I was surprised because he didn't just cry he bawled! I don't know maybe he spent too much time with his mother.
     
  19. John Connellan Valued Senior Member

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    Those suggestions are more than likely wrong. How and would hormones be concentrated into our tear glands?

    The much more probable alternative theory is that it serves the same function as blushing when u are embarrased!
     
  20. Kumar Registered Senior Member

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    Crying: can women cry easily than men? Is it related to salt(NaCl) imbalances?
     
  21. vslayer Registered Senior Member

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    if it is related to salt then men should cry more easily to relaese it, women have a higher water percentage than men so if we eat the same things then men will have a higher concentration af salt and therefore cry more to rid their body of this salt
     
  22. Xev Registered Senior Member

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    "The much more probable alternative theory is that it serves the same function as blushing when u are embarrased!"

    Learn English, brainiac.

    "Those suggestions are more than likely wrong. How and would hormones be concentrated into our tear glands?"

    Tear formation requires the action of a hormone called -- somethingorother -- this hormone is also excreted when tears are excreted. Read up on the subject.
    (Assuming you can tackle something more intellectually demanding than "My Little Pony" books)

    vslayer:
    Interesting argument.
     
  23. gendanken Ruler of All the Lands Valued Senior Member

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    Cosmictraveler:
    No, I actually think some are inert.
    Fubar could be either inert or posing.
    Can't tell.

    Rosa:
    Its called, among other things, mainly Capgras or Cotard's syndrome.

    http://sprott.physics.wisc.edu/pickover/pc/capgras.html

    Characterized by the 'sufferer' believing his world to be a false one and everyone in it impostors. So he lacks feelings.
    Why the site has a girl with wild hair on it…I don’t know.

    Kumar:
    No.

    Lachrymation, or tearing, is pangenic and can be induced with pain or shock stimuli- last I heard humans are the only ones to experience emotional lachrymation, or crying, and studies have shown a kind of hormone soup in its makeup- which suggests that crying is a way of 'shedding' excess emotion.
    Assuming emotion is only chemicals, which I'm inclined to agree with.

    Xev:
    Good post gone to shit.
     

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