Bush gets modest poll bounce after convention, now in the lead.

madanthonywayne,

That is about as bogus as swift vote.

 

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The claims of document forgery have already been refuted by postings around the Internet showing IBM font history and so forth. I can track one down and post a link if anyone's interested.

 

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Tiassa the National Post is a sad excuse for a newspaper; it’s the “conservative” alternative to our rabidly “leftist” publications. If you want to read a truly respected Canadian Newspaper read the Globe and Mail.

 

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Thank you, Undecided. I can sleep trusting that the knife will not come from the north.

Sadly, I took the time to write them a generally-civilized email but somehow didn't save it for posterity. Oh, well.

 

Tiassa for President!

 

Don't get weird people, stay on topic.

 

Right, the same leftist media that had Republicans like Bob Dole and Republican-friendly Democrats like Joe Lieberman constantly commenting on the DNC, while not having any Democrats comment on the RNC until after Bush's speech.

I don't know if anybody called President H.W. Bush stupid in the literal sense as in he lacks analytical and thought-processing skills. But Reagan and W. Bush are among the more simple and "stupid" presidents we have had. They themselves would probably be the first ones to admit it (it really rallies the moron bloc).

 

Also, the latest Newsweek poll shows Bush only 6 points ahead of Kerry, even though this time, they polled 90 more Republicans than Democrats (R-390, D-300, I-270). So in reality, Bush's lead is probably within the margin of error. And his job approval rating is once again below 50%. Only TIME has persisted in reporting a mythical double digit Bush lead, which will only serve to energize the anti-Bush voters. The latest polls shown at www.pollingreport.com tell that besides TIME, all other major pollsters are showing a very very tight race still.

The latest SurveyUSA poll shows that Missouri is not in Bush's column by 14 points. Rather, Bush only has a tenuous 2 point lead that's within the MoE. According to www.electoral-vote.com, Colorado has swung to Kerry. If Kerry can win the Gore states plus New Hampshire and Colorado, then he wins the election. All this hoopla about Florida and Ohio goes down the drain.

 

Every poll done this month shows Bush ahead, although the amount varies from poll to poll. A count of strong Bush and Bush leaning states now has his probable electoral votes at 269 while Kerry stands at 228 with 41 votes considered a toss up.(http://www.realclearpolitics.com/Presidential_04/RCP_EC.html)
For Kerry to win he'd have to pick up every toss up state as well as one of the Bush leaning states. A tall order. I can tell the media's getting desperate since they're now pulling out all the stops (phoney stories based on forged documents, three day stints with Kitty Kelly). Look on the bright side, with Bush re-elected, all you guys will enjoy four more years of bitching and moaning.

 

So grim. Of course, it doesn't surprise me that it's someone who doesn't seem to like liberals that would find four years of bitching and moaning something to look forward to. Yeah. Conservatives, who complain about their rights being violated by the necessity of being equal. Whatever.

Unlike you, Madanthonywayne, some people actually do give a damn about the communities they live in. Thus, to them, bitching and moaning is not a pleasant thing, but part of the process of bringing social and political change to their environment so that their children have something better to look forward to than life as whores or hermits.

We teach our children honesty.

Why? It serves you none in the workplace, and none in the body politic.

We teach our children decency.

Why? Decency is only good in order to turn honesty into a weapon. Decency for the sake of being decent is an idea extolled to youth and vilified in adulthood.

We teach our children cooperation.

Why? Electing Bush is just another step along the route to sealing ourselves inside overpriced, underbuilt apartments with our shotguns trained on the front door to shred anyone who tries to come in while we stuff ourselves gaga on microwaveable food and do everything from our jobs to our shopping to our leisure and friendly competitions online.

This is the ultimate goal of conservative individualism. Of course, that's not applicable to the 1% at the top economic stratum.

But, yes, from that perspective, I can imagine that four years of watching every proclaimed social virtue in America turned into a reason to kill brown-skinned people around the world in order to steal oil and corner the pharmaceutical market and proclaim the glory of Christ's coming would be something to look forward to.

I want a world in which I can teach my daughter to work and play well with others. I do not want a world in which she is defined by an actuarial table for the benefit of a deified economic abstraction.

Thus, I will vote for Kerry, and if Bush is re-elected ... I think of an interview moment from one or another of a cable-news 9/11 flashback. Somebody was talking about the children in a schoolyard, and how a little girl being rushed away by her panicked father shouted, in tears, "Look, Daddy! They're doing it on purpose!"

If Bush is re-elected, the next time a little girl points at the destruction and says, "Look, Daddy! They're doing it on purpose!" her father will have to nod sagely and say, "Yes, and such is life. It's no more than we asked for."

Remember, it's not profitable enough for people to vote to make their lives better. For that reason alone, it might be that Bush will be elected legitimately for once.

Ah, well, when I stop to think that your prediction of Bush being re-elected is based on a deliberate lack of observation, I think I definitely see where you're coming from.

Seriously, Madanthonywayne, go ahead and play the ignoramus if you want, but don't expect that cheap routine to find much respect around here. It's easy enough to take shots on Bush's behalf without making up things to complain about. If you really think "the media's getting desperate since they're now pulling out all the stops", you're either not paying attention or lying to yourself.

Of course, you're the one who finds individual and communal misery something to look forward to. Says more about Bush and the rabble he attracts than it does about Kerry.

 

Please Please Please - For Christ Sake - Dont Vote Bush.

 

Sorry Charlie, but probably the joke will be on you in Nov. Most Polls now are showing that Bush's lead is narrowing all the time and the indication is on election day, it will be a very very close race indeed. If things don't turn around for Bush with the economy and/or the Iraq war get's worst (which it will), then Kerry will probably carry those close states.......

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madanthonywayne

Do you honestly think its only "liberals" that are bitiching! LOL! oh my...ignorance breeds compliance by the looks of it.

 

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Please. Clearly you enjoy bitching and moaning or you wouldn't be on this board. You turn a light hearted jab into an evil plan to turn all children into hermits and whores. Settle down, maybe you missed your medication today.

Oh yes tiassa. As a conservative Republican, I subscribe to the theory that it's best to teach your children dishonesty, indecency, and uncooperativeness. The Left BY NO MEANS has a monopoly of virtue. Quite the contrary, I'd say. To equate a vote for Bush with a lack of decency and honesty only betrays your own hypocracy and bias. I disagree with liberals on almost every issue, but I wouldn't presume to accuse them of being bad parents or of teaching their children to be dishonest.

I don't care what color their skin is. They attacked us, remember?

So you're in favor of freedom of association and the ability to define oneself, as least for your daughter. Sounds like you're in favor of limited government. Could you be a closet Republican?

What? I must say I don't quite follow your logic there. I presume your little parable implies that the actions of the Bush Administration are, somehow, "asking for" a terrorist attack. Even if that's true, no parent would say that to his child while under attack! We may be attacked again. But if I were the father in your story, I'd say, "Yes, that's what evil men do, but we'll make them pay. Evil-doers must be brought to justice."

Damn, do you hold a grudge. Still ticked off about the Y2K election? For the record: BUSH WON. He won the count, the recount, and every news organization to recount the Florida votes agrees he would have won any additional recounts.

Obviously forged documents used in an attempt by a major media conglomerate to bring down a sitting president, if that's not pulling out all the stops, what is?

It's all in your perception. I could say the arrogant, self-rightous tone of your post reveals something about Kerry. But that would be stooping to your level.