Does God Play Chess?

Discussion in 'General Philosophy' started by Quantum Quack, Aug 4, 2004.

  1. Quantum Quack Life's a tease... Valued Senior Member

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    and if he does would it be a fair game?

    Care to discuss?
     
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  3. Xerxes asdfghjkl Valued Senior Member

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    If an omnipotent being played an non-omipotent at chess...hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm...let me ponder.....................

    yup, he'd probably win. And what the heck do you mean by 'fair'? There's no such natural law or relation.
     
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  5. §outh§tar is feeling caustic Registered Senior Member

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    If God played with Himself would it be a stalemate all the time?
     
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  7. philocrazy Banned Banned

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    ok dont tell me i know
    there is more
    ok not a problem
    not a problem
    i can wait
    not a problem
    let me add a joke then
    God is playing chess with quantum quack
    fair move he says
    quantum quack waits
    then God makes a move and wins the game
    who is unfair?


    Philosopher Philocrazy
     
  8. Quantum Quack Life's a tease... Valued Senior Member

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    well...maybe look at it this way:
    The grand master of global chess ( human ) is playing against a novice, is this fair?
     
  9. Alpha «Visitor» Registered Senior Member

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    Likely. There are an infinite number of possible games/outcomes. If one was omniscient regarding all possible moves then you'd always end in a stalemate when playing both sides, or against an equal opponent.
     
  10. Quantum Quack Life's a tease... Valued Senior Member

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    keeping in mind that God is restricted by the rules and the limitations of the board and it's pieces just the same as his competitor.
     
  11. John Connellan Valued Senior Member

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    God plays chess every day, and we are the pawns!
     
  12. DeSeRt RaT UK Registered Senior Member

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    Reading the title made me think of this quote:

    "The chess board is the world, the pieces are the phenomena of the universe, the rules of the game are what we call the laws of Nature. The player on the other side is hidden from us. We know that his play is always fair, just, and patient. But we also know, to our cost, that he never overlooks a mistake, or makes the smallest allowance for ignorance." - Thomas Henry Huxley

    As for would it be fair, yes it would. Just like if we were to play a human grandmaster, it may not be an even match but it's a fair game.

    But would God be able to beat one of the chess computer programs that play Kasprov etc? As the computer like him would be able to see miles ahead and know pretty much every combination.
     
  13. invert_nexus Ze do caixao Valued Senior Member

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    Here's the real question about god. Could God fart a fart so smelly that even He couldn't stand the smell?

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    As to the topic, we all know that God cheats so obviously he'd win. But actually, he'd probably accuse you of playing the wrong game and/or breaking the rules and win by default rather than through competition. If God played with himself, he'd probably call one side Satan and allow it the honor of being the scapegoat and let it lose. Except for a short while (1000 years of Satan) when he'd let him briefly win a few games just to attract the sucker bets.

    Reminds me of the South Park where Jesus got into the boxing match with Satan. See that one? Everyone in town bet on Satan cuz he was such a huge beefy dude while Jesus was this scrawny little love they neighor vegetarian type. Then, the day of the fight Satan danced around until Jesus barely touched him and took a dive. Guess who was the only person in town to bet on Jesus?

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  14. §outh§tar is feeling caustic Registered Senior Member

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    If God was playing against Himself, He would already know what moves He was going to play and would therefore beat Himself... that is the only logical conclusion.
     
  15. §outh§tar is feeling caustic Registered Senior Member

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    He would however know the software's weaknesses (since all software have some).
     
  16. Quantum Quack Life's a tease... Valued Senior Member

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    If you've ever played chess against yourself you know you can't win.....hmmmmm...or lose for that matter......
    an excersise in futility........

    To play chess in a way that works for both parties God would have to let you play with out him interferring in your game.......and yet as we know we apply pressure on our opponents all the time. It would take a lot of self control on Gods part me thinks.

    The epitomy of sportsmanship!!
     
  17. Quantum Quack Life's a tease... Valued Senior Member

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    and to further the philosophical....is not life often equated to a game.......
     
  18. John Connellan Valued Senior Member

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    I thought it was the opposite: u can win AND lose

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  19. Quantum Quack Life's a tease... Valued Senior Member

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    well I suppose if he got pissed of with you youwould lose
     
  20. Alpha «Visitor» Registered Senior Member

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    That presumes omniscience. But if he was, he'd know which moves he'd make on both sides, and would know the outcome and may not bother playing in the first place. But if he did, he'd know which moves he'd make, which moves he'd make in response, etc., etc. So the logical conclusion is that he'd play the perfect game on both sides and every game would be a stalemate.
     
  21. Quantum Quack Life's a tease... Valued Senior Member

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    maybe...but mayb God would be smart enough to know that he needs not to know to make the game worth while...in other words he would refrain from knowing what moves are to be played.....by his choice of course
     
  22. Quantum Quack Life's a tease... Valued Senior Member

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    and rely on his playing skills instead....
     
  23. yinyinwang Registered Senior Member

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    too simple for god.
     

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