Faster Thinking better

Discussion in 'General Philosophy' started by Qean, Jun 17, 2004.

  1. Qean Registered Member

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    I wondered if we were able to think faster would our body's movement and the world around seem slower to us as if we were moving in slow motion?

    When people say that when they get a burst of adrenaline everything moves in slow motion maybe this is because the hormone adrenaline speeds our thinking up a little bit making it seem as if our body were moving slow in comparision.Could we expierience the matrix's bullet time for real if we could think faster?
     
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  3. Dreamwalker Whatever Valued Senior Member

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    I don´t think so, our eyes limit this. As far as I know they are only able to register 24 frames per second. And I don´t think that faster thinking change this. Our movements would also stay the same since our neural system can only act that fast. But you could perhaps speak faster...
     
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  5. Alpha «Visitor» Registered Senior Member

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    I guess you've never experienced a 'moment of clarity'. Sometimes, for no apparent reason I can discern, one may experience a brief period of time where everything seems to slow down and you can think incredibly clearly. Everything just seems so easy to understand, and things seem to be going slowly. I have experienced a moment of clarity, but they are rare. Most people I've mentioned this to have only heard of people who've experienced it, but usually haven't experienced it themselves.
    I believe what's happening is you're thinking faster, so everything else seems to slow down.
     
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  7. water the sea Registered Senior Member

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    Yes, I agree with Alpha.

    Once at school at an oral exam, I was upset, and extremely concentrated. The teacher asked me a question, and to me it seemed as if he's speaking in slow motion.

    Some other time, I saw a fox catch a chicken: the whole thing must have been over in a second, while to me it seemed like ages.

    It is about attention: if you pay close attention or if that attention is somehow triggered, then the brain can process a lot more data than usual. The brain is working at a much faster pace, so, in comparison to what you are used to, things seem to slow down.
     
  8. MiTo filosofos Registered Senior Member

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    I 've never experienced something like that, though it seems fascinating.
    Imagine what kind of advantage would it be if it happened during hand to hand combat

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    Or imagine you are reading a book, and everything is in slow motion

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    No, really it's fascinating, human brain is capable for so much more
     
  9. John Connellan Valued Senior Member

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    U nearly hit the nail on the head Rosa! What it actually is, and I've heard this before, is the amount of times u selectively shift your attention in a given time interval. Aparently, the more times u shift your attention, the longer the period will seem. One of our internal measures of time is actually this shift frequency. People asleep or under hypnosis often report time speeding up greatly because of this!
     
  10. water the sea Registered Senior Member

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    Yes, thank you for the clarity, John.

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    For example, such observations support what you've said: When watching an interesting film, fully concentrated, our attention shifts very few times, and the time period seems short -- even though it's 2 hours.
    When cleaning the house, our attention shift many times, so it seems like the whole afternoon has passed -- even though it's just one hour.
     
  11. SkippingStones splunk! Registered Senior Member

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    I've experienced this "in the zone" feeling a couple times while playing sports or video games.
     
  12. Fallen Angel life in every breath Registered Senior Member

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    i may agree with attention shift, but i don't think it is concentration. i've heard somewhere that concentration on one task is actually a difficult and energy consuming thing for our brain to do, and inefficient at that. in sports the "in the zone" feeling i don't think is coming from not concentration but just awareness of everything around you all at once. the antithesis of concentration. any of you ever meditated? if you count your breaths, you can take 10 breaths and it will be 3 to 4 minutes on the outside of your mind.
     
  13. §outh§tar is feeling caustic Registered Senior Member

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    The in the zone feeling is basketball is hardly related to concentration.

    You could have your eyes gouged out and still hit every shot. It's more of your muscles "concentrating" than your brain itself.
     
  14. Alpha «Visitor» Registered Senior Member

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    I think Fallen Angel was closer. Your awareness seems to expand as if meditating.
    The "in the zone" feeling is not the same at all. It's something entirely different. A moment of clarity is like the Matrix scene where Neo dodges bullets for the first time. It's almost exactly like that. Everything slows down, then all to soon it speeds up again. Only in the matrix the moment of clarity enabled him to move faster because of the matrix. In reality we're not in the matrix.
     
  15. §outh§tar is feeling caustic Registered Senior Member

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    Who is to say?

    Irony of ironies.
     
  16. Alpha «Visitor» Registered Senior Member

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    I've thought about it. It's not really possible. An accurate simulation of reality would require the impossible. Think about it.
     
  17. Cyperium I'm always me Valued Senior Member

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    I think that slow thinking is better than fast thinking, simply cause:

    Each word is weighed and you know that what you think is actually what you meant to think. There is less "misunderstanding" of yourself.

    Slow thinking doesn't mean slow speech, it means that you practice to speak your true intentions, so that you don't get to the wrong conclusion simply by picking the wrong word.

    I think we all have the time we need to think, there shouldn't be like a competition where the one that thinks faster wins the argument.

    Slow thinking, to me, equals truer thinking.
     
  18. §outh§tar is feeling caustic Registered Senior Member

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    A "simulation of reality"?

    Are we not in reality?

    What you are saying is this is the only possible reality. Which I agree with, mind you, but I never agree with "impossible".
     
  19. apendrapew Oral defecator Registered Senior Member

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    When I go for long runs and the disc in my MD player repeats, the second time around, the music sounds slower. Might have something to do with my skeletal muscles taking blood away from my brain. Any insight?
     
  20. Alpha «Visitor» Registered Senior Member

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    In a moment of clarity, not only does everything seem to go slower, but everything seems clearer. That is, your thinking is clearer. It seems easier to understand things, as if you've overcome some mental limit you weren't even aware of. There's no reason the process you're describing can't occur exactly the same way during a moment of clarity, only in less time.
    Yes, that's what the matrix is.
    Of course.
    I'm saying, that what we experience of reality is not merely a simulation of reality, as experiments would show discontinuities or things that would indicate things are not what they seem. Imagine the processing power that would be needed to simulate reality. You'd need more processing power than the universe is capable of. Unless you took shortcuts, in which case discontinuities would arise. So either way, it would be noticeable. I think if we were in some sort of simulation, it would feel like a dream.
     
  21. Cyperium I'm always me Valued Senior Member

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    Ok, I see what you mean, I've had this clarity moment myself. I guess in such moments, thought wouldn't need to be slow (since it's clearer), and would speed up.
     
  22. Quantum Quack Life's a tease... Valued Senior Member

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    What's to say that we aren't living in a very lucid and stable shared dream any way, a sort of matrix if you like......6 billion brains/minds allow for an awful lot of processing potential yes? Not to mention all the other articulated life on the planet. ....and elsewhere.
     

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