The US constitution is fraudulent

Discussion in 'History' started by Brian Foley, May 9, 2004.

  1. Hastein Welcome To Kampuchea Registered Senior Member

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    It's not a pipe dream. It has been done hundreds of times throughout history.
     
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  3. Persol I am the great and mighty Zo. Registered Senior Member

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    And it never lasted... that's what I meant when I said it's a pipe dream.

    Sure, there ARE groups which care about the masses... but eventually you get one which doesntt.
     
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  5. Hastein Welcome To Kampuchea Registered Senior Member

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    Nothing lasts Persol, every closed system increases entropy over time and history shows this. But to say this is evidence of failure is unfair. Greece was a democracy, Rome and Egypt were dictatorships, all of them lasted thousands of years. America is still in its early stage: the first half of its life, and might even collapse or undergo major reform in the next 500 years. Although with new technological-social paradigms this life might be extended, cut short, or become permanent.
     
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  7. Mr. Chips Banned Banned

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    The longevity of social experiments have decreased steadily over the millenia. I really doubt if the US can last another 50 years and hopefully even shorter than that because once we realize it is not sufficient to allow us to survive the information explosion, we'll come up with something else and hopefully something that is based in science rather than force.
     
  8. YadaYada subspace being Registered Senior Member

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    Hastein: The United States, although completely deprived of its European roots in the 20th century and developed into a materialistic anti-culture, has a constitution that gives people a decent amount of freedom and an incredible power-checking system which is the cornerstone of its success.

    Well put. Why would anyone want something else.
     
  9. Hastein Welcome To Kampuchea Registered Senior Member

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    We could refocus our attention on improving culture and values and removing the material-attention worshipping- god-fearing from society. We could also cut back on oil usage, but for the most part, we have it very well here and its sick that everyone takes it for granted. Oh, and ban advertisements.
     
  10. §outh§tar is feeling caustic Registered Senior Member

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    All aspects of society and government should be banned.


    In that case, there is no complaining of this sort. There is no whining because of enslavement or "unequal opportunity". There will actually be freedom, instead of this bullshit "what's best for the society comes before the individual's needs" crap.
     
  11. alain du hast mich Registered Senior Member

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    "perhaps you should read those acts again you missed a wad of undemocratic anti-pravacy laws "

    do you even know what democracy is??? it is where people elect officials, and those officials decide on the laws for the country, a law like "it is legal to rape females, but not males" would be unfair, but it would still be a democratic law if it was approved by the government officials (representatives of the public)
     
  12. StarOfEight A Man of Taste and Decency Registered Senior Member

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    How can you ban society? Societies are a feature common to almost all animal life.
     
  13. Hastein Welcome To Kampuchea Registered Senior Member

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    Or you could shut the hell up. You sound like a Judeo-Christian or a Bolshevik (same impetus), crying about overthrowing the unjust and 'oppressive' government to make up some anarchist utopia. Perhaps you could go live with Brian Foley. Go ahead, walk out in the woods and live by yourself, see how long you last.
     

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