well my beliefs are more along those of a third party, but the system kinda sucks. bush is pretty much bringing about the exact opposite of my beliefs. so in order to prevent pure evil i have no choice but to vote for kerry
I could not possibly vote for a man who thinks god wants him in office. This administration has been a disaster. I'm in the "anyone but Bush" crowd. "Somewhere in Texas, a village is missing its idiot." Let's send him back.
During the last presidential election I was working 70 hours a week and thought anyone would be better than Klinton. That's my excuse for voting for Bush. I don't care for the democrats (and won't vote for Kerry) but my keen sense of the obvious tells me that Bush is treasonous scum.
I don’t agree with bush at all. First of all he is a war pig. He has started two wars while in office, with very little reason. I am against war in all forms, but this is off the charts. He started the war for no reason. Furthermore he is not very smart. There are a number of sites out there, like http://home.twcny.rr.com/felicity/dumya.htm, that shows some of the stupid things he has said of done. One such comment is "I know the human being and fish can coexist peacefully". He actually said that, no joke. I also don’t agree with his policies, such as banned gay marriages, and his support for large corporations. Not that all of them are bad, but he very much bending some rules. He does nothing to help the environment, and in many cases does it wrong. He is definitely not fit to be president.
Americans should learn from the last elections,.....they voted Nadar and got bush instead,... Now they're gonna vote Kerry and they're gonna get Bush,... My msg? VOTE INDEPENDENT!!!! PUT THOSE SKULLY AND BONES OUT OF BUSSINESS!!!
i vote in this poll and im european, these types of polls always lack a "I'm in luck, I'm not american" option Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image!, its like you[the americans] forget the internet is global
If I was American and I could vote in their elections I would vote NO! Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image!
Although I agree with your sentiments, I suspect the Independent candidates are also members of Skull and Bones or some of the other secret societies....Trilateral Commission, Bilderbergers, PNAC, Council on Foreign Relations, Bohemian Grove...etc... The media has protected these secret societies from scrutiny for too long. Candidates appear to be loyal to your favorite ideology or mine, but their loyalty always lies with the New World Order.
The Skull&Bones society does not care who wins, because both Bush&Kerry are members of this secret society so whoever wins they win, so what gives?. http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/0122-10.htm Godless.
I didn't vote for Bush the first time and won't the second but I'm lukewarm about Kerry. He's a local guy though, and it might be helpful to the state's economy to have one of our boys in the White House.
Vote for Bush, i dont think so but im not a yank so its not my decision to make, we get to blame the idiotic poplus of that nation for the crap he's already done in 1 term in office. To quote a genius, "its not that i disagree with Bush's for foreign policys or his ecconomic policy's its just i think he's the child of satan sent here to distroy the planet Earth."
I siad yes because he's the right man for the job. Why? Well I'm an athiest who thinks Bushs religious beliefs are crap. I think his stances on alot of things sux, but for the war on terrorism he's DEAD on. This is a kill or be killed world. Dead ppl don't fight back. The terrorist understand this. Bush understands this. The ONLY thing that is important right now is dealing with this. Why? cause if you don't the next 9-11 it might be me/you that is dead. I'd much rather go over to afganistan/iraq/iran/syria and die killing the ppl that are trying to kill me. Instead you want me to sit on my butt and wiat for the other shoe to drop? Wake up ppl the best defence in this case the ONLY defence is a GOOD OFFENCE. Stop whining about a few soldiers dieing. THAT IS THERE JOB, and THEY KNOW IT. To all you ppl who say attacking Iraq didn't further the war on terror I say this. If it didn't then why is it that right at this moment there are more terror attacks in Iraq than the whole rest of the world combined? I mean everyone bitchs and gripes and says we were not prepiared for such heavy resistance. I say your right. We had NO IDEA there were that MANY terrorists in Iraq. Isn't it a good thing we attacked them...Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image! Would you rather they all filter into the US and start blowing up car bombs at your local theater? Wendy's? Owe wiat even better they can blow up some churchs full of infidel christians....Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image! Wake up ppl. Look around. Its not a conspiracy. Bush doesn't CARE one little tiny bit about oil. He's not out to make money. HES RICH ALREADY. He's reacting the ONLY way you can to being attacked. He's attacking BACK. I FIRMLY believe there is one and ONLY one reason he attacked Iraq. CAUSE HE COULD. Iraq made a perfect target because for 10+ yrs it had thumbed its nose at the world by attacking its nieghbors and defying the UN. It had a big target pianted on it siad attack here first. I'd bet my last dallar that Bush WISHS he could attack Iran, Syria and N Korea to. Accept there not stupid like Saddam. Why would he want to attack them to??? Cause they ARE the problem. Closed poor societys full of ppl looking for hope, a dream, or a way out with radical religious nuts preaching that the way out is to blow them selves up attacking the US etc. Why don't we just plant terrorist like trees and wiat for them to grow up and KILL US. Even better with N Korea there just NUTS, or rather there leader is. Either way they NEED to be delt with. You know why nice ppl finish last? Cause dead ppl don't finish races. Get over this peace love and happyness crap. They hate us. They want to KILL US. They ARE killing us. We ether go kill them or we die. Choose fight? or die? Sorry for ranting....Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image!
Try OIL!! and you may get it right!. Fact is that the war on Irag was first coined at "Operation Iraqi Liveration" later they decide it to change it because of its acronym.. Fact is this admninistration had plans to attack Irag way before 9-11. Talk to Bush's leader Dick Cheyney, he'll tell ya all about it. BTW what was Dick Cheyney's previous job?. RUNNING AN OIL COMPANY!! Does Halliburton ring a Bell?. This is an ignorant question, the reason that there's more violence attacks in Irag is because there is a war in Irag!! Duh Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image! These people don't feel liverated they feel invaded. BTW Irag had nothing to do with 9-11 and if you think that it did, talk to Bush himself that he has already admited there's no link between Irag and 9-11. OH!! were are the weapons? Irag was no threat to the US, get your nose off Bush's ass! and wake up yourself!!. Godless.
This is a kill or be killed world. Dead ppl don't fight back. You would think that wouldn't you? Dead people are the largest asset the terrorists have against you. Welcome to another world, death is not an issue in that part of the world. Kill them and do them a favor, they receive the coveted Martyrdom status. It is very simple you kill one you get at least 20 more sympathizers and a couple of "soldiers" to fight for the cause. It's very simple human psychology, same thing happened post 9/11 in the US with the increase in enrollment in the US military, and the fanaticism that soon followed. The terrorist understand this.Bush understands this. No the former seems to understand how to use death for their own gains. Bush doesn’t seem to comprehend that the more you kill the bigger the hole you dig for yourself is. You do know that Al Q has officially endorsed Bush as their candidate for office; he is their biggest propaganda tool. The terrorists understand how damaging Bush’s policies have been internationally, and how no one cares about the US anymore. You could fail in Iraq, and the whole world would say apathetically; “we told you so, deal with it”. Why? cause if you don't the next 9-11 it might be me/you that is dead. I'd much rather go over to afganistan/iraq/iran/syria and die killing the ppl that are trying to kill me. You do realize that the latter causes the former. It has been US policy that has created so much hate in the ME, the same policy that you are exposing right now. It's not cognitive to continue and even exacerbate a policy that has created the conditions in the Middle East for people wanting to kill you. There are reasons why people attacked you, and no it's not because they are jealous of your power. Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image! I urge you to attack Iran and Syria, you will fail horribly and lose this war. So do your worst, because the worst will come back to you. Simple logic, and history dictates as such, and no the US is not independent of historical precedent. Wake up ppl the best defence in this case the ONLY defence is a GOOD OFFENCE. The best defense is a good offence that is true, and no one denies that. But you aren't fighting states, you aren’t fighting people, you are fighting organizations that exist within your own country as well as those in others. The more you prove them right by invading and humiliating people. The US war on terrorism would be better served with increased police actions, intel. actions, and covert operations not overt and disastrous policies initiated like those in Iraq. If it didn't then why is it that right at this moment there are more terror attacks in Iraq than the whole rest of the world combined? LOL!Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image! This is the typical Bush supporter! Look at Godless’ obvious answer to this ridiculous accusation. We had NO IDEA there were that MANY terrorists in Iraq. Isn't it a good thing we attacked them...Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image! Actually Saddam was a blood enemy of the people you hate, they hated each other. The people who are attacking US troops are not terrorists; they are fighting in their own country for their own dignity. They are insurgents, they are fighting against a occupation in their own territory, you aren’t immune from colonial hatred. Do you actually expect them sit back and do shit all? You illegally and maliciously invaded their nation on false premises; no terror connections found, no WMD, nada. So please spare me from more unsubstantiated nonsense. Would you rather they all filter into the US and start blowing up car bombs at your local theater? Wendy's? Owe wiat even better they can blow up somechurchs full of infidel christians....Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image! Following the Bush Doctrine, these are certainties. Bush doesn't CARE one little tiny bit about oil. He's not out to make money. HES RICH ALREADY. He's reacting the ONLY way you can to being attacked. He's attacking BACK. When you have $4 trillion worth of oil underneath Iraq you better believe that was a factor. I agree Oil is not the sole reason for the invasion; the real reasons are much more sinister. No one is ever "too rich". Iraq made a perfect target because for 10+ yrs it had thumbed its nose at the world by attacking its nieghbors and defying the UN. Hey then when are the tanks rolling into Israel, she has done that and more. It had a big target pianted on it siad attack here first. Definitively a Bush supporter. Cause they ARE the problem. Closed poor societys full of ppl looking for hope, a dream, or a way out with radical religious nuts preaching that the way out is to blow them selves up attacking the US etc. Why don't we just plant terrorist like trees and wiat for them to grow up and KILL US. The exact same indoctrination happens in the US, and you are evidence of this with your ethno-centric ignorance. You are not superior to those people, and to believe you are makes you no better then them. They don't want your help, and they hate the US for very legitimate reasons. There are nuts within your own country, and administration America is not even close to being immune from political extremists. Even better with N Korea there just NUTS, or rather there leader is. I suggest you refrain from talking about something you know very little about. Sorry for ranting I would say sorry to human dignity that was the only victim here.
The US is on a river of shiet without a paddle, and I can relate to Dark_Man, really when you get bonbarded 24/7 from all forms of pre-war propaganda, and the terrorists are comming warnings, every single time these sob's screw up to keep us scared shietless, (if you buy in to it)! which oviously has worked on Darkie boy, amongs millions of ingnoramous american populace. Now we are in a very dagerous situation, just how desperate will Brush&co, go? perhaps another staged terror attack to keep the emperor in power, or will someone of this administration finally find a bone of morality and not jump this line?. But then we have Kerry, the democratic hopefull that has not come out all too clear, yea Kerry may pull us out of the Irag scenario, but screw us up domestically beyond repair, of which many believe we are beyond repair allready. Really there's no quick fix here, but IMHO "neither of these sob's care less what happens to the American middle class." We've been getting screwed for decades under both parties, and the shiet will continue, the middle class caries the burden for the rich and supports the poor, we get stuck with the highest tax rate, and yes the middle class has been dwindling since the Regan years. Myself included. Godless.
If we pull out of Iraq now, we will have disappointed the youth of Iraq, hopelessly plunging us into another 80 years of unsurmountable hatred. In Bagdad alone, we have rebuild 57 elementary and middle schools and rebuilt and enhanced 4 universities. Only 4 of the middle schools and one university were hit by the war, it's just that Saddam let them fall into such sad states that no learning could effectively be had there. Less then 60 percent of the Iraqi population are literate. Now, these children see hope for their future for the first time in their lives. They see freedom from opression, and they see for the first time that other countries do care about their well being. Right or wrong, we started this war. Right or wrong, we are involved now. To pull out now would ruin all the rebuilding. It would pull the rug of hope out from under generations of youth in Iraq. We broke their system, we should go the distance and finish the job. At least give them the chance to rebuild their nation in safety and without oppression. We offered that to them, we need to keep our promise.
If we pull out of Iraq now, we will have disappointed the youth of Iraq, hopelessly plunging us into another 80 years of unsurmountable hatred. You invading Iraq have caused another century of hatred, the damage has been done. Do you think building schools will bring back the thousands of innocents who have died at the hands of American bombs? Let's be realistic about the way people think, empires have always claimed to bring "civilization" to these "desperate, and ignorant peoples" otherwise known as the white mans burden. Well the reality is that those schools become symbols of what this occupation is, nothing more then a façade of power. The Brits, the Soviets, even the US has done this "reconstruction" of society to fit their ethos and models of a society. They have always failed in their attempts, and the US is going to be bias in their education of Iraqi’s as well. Now, these children see hope for their future for the first time in their lives. They see freedom from opression, and they see for the first time that other countries do care about their well being. I very highly doubt that the large, poor, and disenfranchised youth of Iraq (who are mostly Shi'a) see much in the future. The country is in rebellion, and eventually most likely into a civil war after the election. Most youth in Iraq and the Arab world are sick and tired of promises, and now are joining the swelling ranks of militia like Al-Sadr's, or even terrorist groups. 80% of Iraq's populations have been subjugated by 20% over the last 80 years, and things don't seem to be changing. All these people care about now is to get the US out, and then whatever will be will be. Right or wrong, we started this war. Right or wrong, we are involved now. To pull out now would ruin all the rebuilding. It would pull the rug of hope out from under generations of youth in Iraq. We broke their system, we should go the distance and finish the job. At least give them the chance to rebuild their nation in safety and without oppression. We offered that to them, we need to keep our promise. Same argumentation that existed in Vietnam, and you left them was increased cancer rates, and a generation traumatized by war. The more the US stays the worse it will get, especially with this policy. It is a no win situation for a power like the US, if they don’t want you they won’t have you.
All ranting aside this whole argument saddens me. I mean what ever happened to just doing the right thing. Let examine that statement. Is leaveing human beings to be slautered by the hundreds the right thing? Is letting a CLEARLY insane leader maintane power the right thing? Letting him seek ways such as WMD, massive convencinal weapon stockpiles, and HUGE armys to increase his influence the right thing? No... I mean common forget ALL the propoganda. Forget all this crap about WMD terror links all that crap. Raw HARD facts. Saddam killed his OWN ppl in mass. We have found the graves. There is ZERO doubt. Saddam was agressive vs his nieghbors by attacking (HE started BOTH wars) iran and kewait(sp). He also atempted to attack the Saudi's and if the US and UN allies hadn't been there he WOULD have won. Saddam had chem weapons. We KNOW he used them. We KNOW he wanted biological and nuclear. The safe assumption is if he had those he wouldn't think twice about useing them to. The ONLY thing that prevented him from getting nukes was isreal bombing his plant and then the UN placed restrictions post Gulf War I. Based on ALL these facts I don't see any choice. This isn't propoganda. Its cold hard absolute irafutable facts. The only thing we got wrong was we believed his WMD capacity was MUCH larger. Fact is if he'd have just come clean we might not have attacked. Why didn't he come clean then? My guess is 2 fold. #1 he wanted to maintian the fear. So when he attacked someone else agian later they were scared of his chem and bio capabilitys. #2 he wasn't completely clean and didn't plan on stayng that way. Which one is correct or if they both are correct DOESN'T MATTER. Ether way hell ANY way you look at it he was not cooperating. He still wanted to attack ppl. That makes him a threat reguardless of his true ability to do it. All this crap about Bushs polocys making things worse is just non sense. What you think they will kill us deader? or that they will hate us so much more that they will do WORSE things to us than kill us? I mean common they have already proven they will take it to futhest extreems posable. As far as the idea that it creates MORE terrorists. I just don't see it. I mean we are over there biulding schools restoring power and water food etc. For every 1 person that it pisses off there is probibly 10 that in the end it will turn to our side. Yes its a risk. Yes it CAN backfire, but as of this point in time I just don't see that. I'll tell you what I DO see. I see a small group of ppl. 10-20k out of 25 million ppl tops. That have had power TAKEN away from them. They were in charge. They had all the guns and toys. They could kill and rape and do whatever they liked. Now they are running hiding fighting and dieing. They don't like it and there trying to fight back. Its up to EVERYONE Iraqs US UK hell even france russia etc to stand up to these power mad bullies yes I siad bullies and put them down like the dogs that they are. Lets look at this a differnet way. If you were a teenager and you had a rivalry going with another teenager in your nieghborhood. Accept after a few minor fist fights this kid goes out gets a gun and takes a pop shot at you but misses. What happens? The police arrest him and he goes to jial for a VERY long time. Same diff. Saddam had and used chem weapon. I mean hell he did the equivlent of literly killing his own cousin that lived in the SAME house with him. Tried to kill 2 of his own neighbors. I mean common. Yes I know its more complicated than that, bnut see that just it its NOT. He was a tirant a bully and complete insain. People like that can't be allowed to have that much power. Next you will telling me we should have left Hilter alone. there is noly ONE differnace between Hilter and Saddam and that idiot in N korea (Kim) the differance is Hilter succeeded. In success everyone realized exactly how dangerious he realy was. Yet Saddam was every bit as dangerious as Hilter, and Kim is STILL as dangerious and you refuse to see it. When will you see it? I mean when he's blowing up your house its a bit late to say owe gee this guy sux. As far as the terrorists go. I mean common. They want to kill us. There is only one responce. Kill them. The REAL problem here is not OUR polocy's. Its the fucking moderate Islamics. They need to grow some balls and call these wacko fundamentalist guys to the matt. Until they raise there hand and say they are tired of the killing. Tired of the terror attacks and conflict your right it won't stop. Who was it? Winston Churchill? Looking this up... Ooops my bad... "All that is necessary for evil to succeed is that good men do nothing." - Edmund Burke This 100% describes them. they are "good men" yet they do nothing about the evil men. So if they won't we have NO CHIOCE but to do it ourselves. I put to you this simple fact. If we were not attacking Iraq and Afganistan/hunting down terrorists. What should we do? The only other thing I can think of is to seal our borders and make the entirety of EU into a police state with guard on every street. Otherwhise the terrorist will still have the ability to kill. So I say to you this. If you don't like Bushs polocy fine. Ok I'm with that. Give me a solution that WORKS. I mean REALY works. Then we will go with that. So lets hear it whats your solution?
well you want a solution that works. that s interesting since you are praising a solution that just makes things worse. it s not working at all. isnt it fool hardy to implement something that is a complete failure? by the way, we didnt go iraq to liberate the iraqi people. we went there to get WMD which arent there. we went to war under false pretenses, stop trying to change the story.
