If Bush wins his bid for re-election this year, then expect more of the same........More Wars with another four years with Rumsfeld, Powell and Rice. Sounds like an equation for doom. Atta Boy
I share the consequences, but I don't share the blame for something that I was against all along. Imagine a bunch of liberals blaming each other for conservatives electing Bush. That would be pointless.
I think Bush saw 9/11 as a huge opportunity to enrich his buddies, hence himself. Iraq has nothing to do with terrorism or helping Iraqis. That's why they're being abused. More abuse = more profit.
"If Bush wins his bid for re-election this year, then expect more of the same........More Wars with another four years with Rumsfeld, Powell and Rice. Sounds like an equation for doom." Yes. Makes me wonder on the polling. If Kerry is up just 6 points, yet I know people are sick of this. Sadam was a big pain in the US's ass, but to what? Oil or the human rights violations? My guess is oil. So we took care of that and now most likely a cruel dictator will take his place. So lets split outta there and start making life happy at home. Too much to ask?
I would take Powell out of the equation. He hasn't agreed with the administration for some time and has been said to have wanted out long ago. Where is he in the prison abuse scandel? He has been the main figure between Israel and Palestine. With Bush running the show, could you blame him for wanting out?
I think Powell could be the first to go if the war in Iraq get's any worst and it will. Rice is a puppet or Yes Man/woman.......Likewise Rumsfeld. In any event, this is probably one of the worst adminstrations that could lead America in the past 50 years....... Atta Boy
Norman, Rice is more than a puppet. Don't quote me on this, but wasn't she CEO of Chevron prior to her appointment with Bush. And.., didn't she work with Bush Sr. too?
Eh, Bush has other issues and things going for him (born-again christian thing, anti-abortion, "tough on crime", no gay marriages, etc) that quite a few Americans believe in... On another note, if we leave Iraq now, what happens? The citizens will be happy at first...then they're get quashed by some warlord and blame us more, at the same time said warlord will probably be against the US too. Leaving now would just make the place a giant training camp for people who want to hurt the US, which is a BAD THING. Instead we should slowly give the UN control over the area and kind of fade into the background, that way if anything gets fucked up by the UN we can move in and be "saviors" (get more oil that way...). That would a) cheapen the cost of being in Iraq for us, b) reduce hostilities... Just some thoughts. The point is to make it look like we're not dictating out and forming a regime in Iraq, instead the people choose their regime and the UN carefully monitors the process...and if anything goes wrong in the meantime (some dictator takes over, whatever) the US goes in and deals with it... pfeh, what will happen though is we'll instill some asshat who will whore Iraq out to US corporations because THAT'S DEMOCRACY! WHORES ARE DEMOCRACY! Excuse me....
"WHORES ARE DEMOCRACY! Excuse me.... " Nah, nah. Whores are capitalists. They are the utmost respected and at the same time hated. Capitalism thrives in a democracy, and also in serious economical trouble.., can anyone say out-sourcing?
But Powell was the one most against the war in Iraq if he goes it will be a disservice to the country. Remember the lead up to the war almost all of the military were advising caution and restraint (the people who actually know about war) and all the neocon politicians were clamoring for war. I was outside the country so I could be wrong about this but that was the impression I got.
Of all of Bush's administration, Powell is probably the best he has on his staff. I'm sure he won't be around for the next four if Bush wins re-election. Rumsfeld on the other hand is..is a joke. Atta Boy
Rumsfeld is nothing of a joke. He's far from incompetent, he knows EXACTLY what he's doing. The only problem is he's not doing his job for the country, he's doing it for some reason (Halliburton maybe? some sort of monetary reason I'm sure). The man scares me...he doesn't seem to have compassion, he seems contemptuous in press conferences... The rest of the Bushies don't like Powell because Powell actually is in it to help the country...and he doesn't willingly tow the party line (he does it, but grudgingly it seems)...he's not anti-abortion and he's not pro-"obliterate people to steal their resources and set up military hardpoints to obliterate other nations and repeat the process", so he's not pro-imperialist...I honestly wouldn't mind seeing the man as President, though he wouldn't be my first choice.
I agree, Contemptuous is probably the word one can use to describe Rumsfeld........He has contempt for the press, contempt for senate hearings and contempt for issues that he alone is responsible for, such as the prisoner abuse issue.....He is definitely a contemptuous man......Too bad for the american people. Powell on the other hand would probably make a good president someday if he ever gets up enough courage to run. Atta Boy
Democrats suck they dont even take stances that they should like: legalizing or decriminilizing marijuana or something to that degree. I m votin for Bush at least he cut taxes so that we could afford more drugs. Kerry will increase them and leave drugs illigal ergo: less drugs = Kerry gets no vote from me. GO BUSH GO VOTE BUSH VOTE BUSH! MORE MONEY MORE WEED!
And the next one messes up? And the next? What then? Democracy is - or should be - about much more than the ability to act "after the fact". After what kind of facts? After their leader has taken away many if not all of their democratic rights? Or at best, squandered the wealth and well being of the country? Thinking this way endangers and devalues democracy, reducing it to a system of blind faith, bolting the barn door after the horse has fled, the ability to elect a succession of inept and self-interested leaders. People should be on guard, well informed and well educated. Perhaps then, under intelligent public scrutiny, their democratically elected leaders would be less inclined to mess up in the first place or, indeed, to be elected in the first place.
You have a point, but I nonetheless strongly disagree. That kind of action is typical of Islamic governments. So he messes up, just cut off his head. Maybe the next one will learn....
Who would have been a better leader, Gore or Bush? I wonder what kind of president Gore would have been? I don't think Gore would have gone after Saddam. I think he would have stayed out of Iraq. But that's just a guess. Instead, as president, I think he would have probably just helped Mr. Clinton create more jobs for the cigar industry....... Atta Boy
