I Have Said It Once, And I'll Say It Again...

Discussion in 'Free Thoughts' started by TruthSeeker, Apr 23, 2004.

  1. Repo Man Valued Senior Member

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    I agree that many guys are jerks. Many of them are jerks only to the extent that women allow them to be. If aggressive jerks ended up spending their nights alone, you'd see a rapid change in male behavior. Welcome to the monkey house.

    But we all know that women can be ruthless in their dating/mating choices as well. These differences become rapidly apparent when you read personal ads.
    You'll see women specifying height requirements, and minimum income requirements. Imagine if a man placed an ad specifying that the woman he was seeking must have a least a C cup. Women would be outraged! But no one bats an eye when a woman states in her ad that "no one under 5'8" should respond". (I'm not sensitive to this because I'm short BTW. 6'3")

    The dating game is rough. That's why I've opted out.
     
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  3. rainbow__princess_4 The Ashtray Girl Registered Senior Member

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    Yeah but women don't place ads either. Perhaps if they surveyed men they'd find that they preferred certain heights too because after all if you're 6 foot then its hard to be attracted to a 3 foot 5 midget. And even though people say its personality that really matters, we all know that its physical attraction which makes you want to know about personality.
     
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  5. Repo Man Valued Senior Member

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    The "Women seeking men" column in the local weekly paper is full of ads placed by women.

    But yes, it is all about the physical.
     
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  7. My Sexy Blue Feet Out sunbaking, leave a msg... Registered Senior Member

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    Only initially. Like, the first minute, 30 secs even, it's about the looks. then it's personality
     
  8. Zxanthaxzantheus On a posting binge. Registered Senior Member

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  9. jinchilla Registered Abuser Registered Senior Member

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    I'm sorry but, since nobody else asked...

    "The last time I saw him he socked me in the stomach because he didn’t like how our conversation was going."

    WTF!!!!!!!!! WTF!!!!!!!!! WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Wait....

    WTF!!!!!!!! WTF!!!!!!!!! WTF!!!!!!!!!!

    I could keep going but, I've known women to rip my still beating heart from my chest and feed upon it before my eyes. So, I'll only ask one more time...

    What the fuck!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Socked you????? Punched you?????? Assaulted you??????

    Sorry! Just don't understand.

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  10. Repo Man Valued Senior Member

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    Well, the Ladder theory is pretty much correct in my opinion. And it does an excellent job of explaining why I will probably never see female genitalia again (except for strippers maybe).

    I think my only hope is a mail order bride. Like Emo Phillips said, "I always wanted a beautiful wife, and she always wanted to be an American, so things just worked out."

    Ever since I gave up hope....
    I feel better.- unknown
     
  11. water the sea Registered Senior Member

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    I had a classmate and I had this huge crush on him, he was the sweetest guy I ever knew. Oh ... Well, things weren't working out and I felt really down, so I finally started THAT conversation. He was still sweet, and after a while I asked "I'm boring, aren't I?"
    And what did he say?? "No, you're not boring ... You're very educated."
    That is the worst thing I have ever heard!!

    Anyhow, he actually did have a problem with "educated" people, constantly belitteling himself in front of them. I just didn't notice it right away, I was too busy gazing at him ... Ah.
     
  12. jinchilla Registered Abuser Registered Senior Member

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    Sorry about that outburst... But what the hell could a guy be thinking? There aren't too many issues regarding which I'm idealistic any more. But I don't see my stance on this subject changing before I pass.

    Excerpt from Jin's Laws of Manhood or Bubbles in Champagne:

    Article 1 ; Section 1

    Any person deserving of the status of manhood shall make all reasonable effort to protect the saftey and life of any woman or child regardless of color, creed or social status.

    Article 1 ; section 2

    No person deserving of the status of manhood shall, exept as a dire last act of self-defense, intentionally harm or allow to come to harm any woman or child regardless of color, creed or social status.

    There are a bunch more regarding honesty, integrity and respect for one's self as well as others. I say don't let women define manhood. They may choose guys but they may not choose men. Live by a personal credo that affords you dignity and self-respect. And always keep your word for as one person put it, it's all a man really owns and without his word he is nothing. This doesn't apply to women due to their main prerogative.

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    And if one defines manhood based on the passing of genetic material, then every animal and both genders could be defined as men. Swinging the dick is the easy part.

    Thanks, Repo. I'm reading an entertaininging write up on the ladder theory right now. A wonder I never heard of it.
     
  13. Zxanthaxzantheus On a posting binge. Registered Senior Member

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    For such a good Guideline to manhood, its a sad fact that most men dont follow it:

    source

    But..thats not the point of this topic, so i'll be quiet now.

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  14. TruthSeeker Fancy Virtual Reality Monkey Valued Senior Member

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    No! Don't stop! That is still very interesting information. I didn't know there were "guidelines for manhood". I find it quite ironic that our society values things that are against those guidelines! Like being dihonest, for example...

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    But anyways...
    jinchilla,
    Can you give us a source for the guidelines you talked about. I'm very interested in reading all of it.


    According to the ladder theory, I have almost no chance with a bitch!

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    From the "ladder":
    "The first thing to notice here is that a woman has not one ,but two ladders. This is becasue in addition the normal ladder, a woman also has a friends ladder. The friends ladder is where a woman puts guys that she considers "just friends". More to the point where she puts guys who don't get to have sex with her.

    The problem arises because a woman never lets a guy know which ladder he is on. Obviously there is a huge difference, or gap between these two ladders. It is in this gap that kisses of death are delivered and intellectual whores are made. All a man can do is "go for it" and make a move on a girl; ask her out, try to kiss her, write her a love note or whatever. If he's on the good ladder fine. If he is on the friends ladder this is a case of ladder jumping. The man is trying to jump the gap from the friends ladder to the real ladder. The girl has two choices at this point: she can let him on the ladder and all is well, or, more likely, she can kick him in the head, and off the ladder. If you look you'll see that below the ladder is the Abyss(what was it Nietzsche said about a man being on a rope stretched over an Abyss?....well it's worse than he thought; there is no rope.) So the man falls into the Abyss. The Abyss isn't really as bad as it sounds. Mostly it's a period of self-loathing, embarrassment, and of course utter awkwardness with the girl in question if they are talking at all."


    So true... Funny that I'm always on the bad one...

    Avatar,
    "But do you want to date an average girl? I don't."
    Try and find one above average... You might be surprised when you find one and she is dating a jerk...

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  15. 15ofthe19 35 year old virgin Registered Senior Member

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    The best thing about women is that there are so damn many of them. If you get tired of the one you're with, you can just kick her to the curb and go pick out a new one. Shit, that's what I did. I had a pretty good one, but she had issues, so I got rid of her and got myself an upgraded model. (smarter, funnier, bigger boobs)

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    Life is sweet. I think I'll go have sex now. It's been almost six hours.

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  16. jadedflower observer Valued Senior Member

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    I used to like this guy, my best friend, and I used to think he was amazing and really intelligent for his age.

    So one day we're having a nerdy conversation about code and computer programming and he says to me; "You're one of the most intelligent and interesting girls I've ever met."

    I blushed... very flattered. BUT he added:

    "I don't date intelligent girls".

    Yes well, that's obvious to me now.
     
  17. lixluke Refined Reinvention Valued Senior Member

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    Talk about stupid.


    Why so I can wake up to your nightmare?
    You have no way of backing up this completely absurd statement.

    Your insinuation that a girl has to be in a relationship with a jerk to know that she is not attracted to them is the dumbest thing ever.
    I guess you have to go out with the rat under your stove to know you are not attracted to it.


    Any girl requesting minimum income requirements should be blown to pieces.


    What an idiot.
    The very definition of the rare exceptional girl is that she doesn't date jerks.
    Any girl that dates jerks is average.
    It would be a contradictory impossibility for one to meet a girl that is not dating jerks and at the same time, dating a jerk.
     
  18. jadedflower observer Valued Senior Member

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    No, every girl that dates jerks is a girl... cause we never think they're jerks (I don't think I've ever gone out with a jerk =P)...

    and anyhow... the concept of jerk is relative. The guy going out with the girl you want is always a jerk.
     
  19. lixluke Refined Reinvention Valued Senior Member

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    "the concept of jerk is relative."
    Who cares?
    If you don't like jerks, you are exceptional.
    If you do like jerks, you are average. Hopefully you will disappear off the face of the earth. But I doubt we would be so lucky.

    As for your assertion. Everybody pretty much has the same picture of what a jerk is. You're trying to make a problem out of something that is really innocuous.
     
  20. jadedflower observer Valued Senior Member

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    how do you want to have a decent debate if you don't accept that terms are relative?

    I think it's exceptional for a male to not be a jerk... and in the abcense of non-jerks one is force to go for second best.

    You, my friend, are a jerk.

    That's another thing. Most jerks think they're perfect and flawless and can NEVER accept a mistake.

    I'm sorry you wish to see me disappear of the face of this earth... you'll have to wait a while for it. I don't think I'll die just yet. Who knows, you might go first.

    And I think the definition of jerk varies. A good example:

    I think you're a jerk.
    You don't.
     
  21. jinchilla Registered Abuser Registered Senior Member

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    TruthSeeker, the source is your's truly. That's my credo. Sorry to disappoint you.
     
  22. Xev Registered Senior Member

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    http://www.misanthropic-bitch.com/death_to_women.html

    Truthseeker:
    "According to the ladder theory, I have almost no chance with a bitch! "

    Not in the sense of "derogatory term for a woman", true, but there are many female chow-chows who would welcome your advances.
     
  23. Princess Science Dork Registered Senior Member

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    Girls don't gravitate to guys who are jerks. They gravitate to guys who have confidence. This is not to be confused with arrogance. A guy who says to the world "I know how to please my woman" is the sexiest thing going. It has nothing to do with being an adonis with a 12 inch penis who is rich and powerful. It's all about the confidence he has in himself and in your relationship.

    I'm glad to hear that 15ofthe19 has upgraded. It's best to keep upgrading until you've found the one that would kill you if s/he were any better.
     

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