I think some people are taking this to seriously. It was just one of many plot holes in a rather stupid movie. A new one: When someone is detached from the matrix why do the robots just toss them in the ocean? They know there's a submarine down there picking them up. Why don't they just kill the buggers when they have the chance? Answer: Its a plot hole in a stupid movie.
I think you can call the Matrix a lot of things, but "a stupid movie" is the farthest thing from what it is. Unless you somehow didn't get it?
AAAActualy, if you were quick enough to follow the architect’s speech at the end of matrix reloaded you would have discovered that the humans and machines are in a complicated interdependent situation. The Matrix can't fool all the people all the time, and if the guys who are hip to the fakery aren’t removed then they can eventually spread their malcontent and crash the whole matrix killing everyone inside, and riding the machines of their energy source. So the machines need the free humans to cruise around identifying and freeing these malcontents so the whole system doesn’t crash. But the machines DONT need Zion getting too strong and being a real threat in the war, so periodically its good for them to wipe out Zion. Then let them re-build so they can get back to the task of freeing the malcontented people from the matrix. And er... also the one is a kung-fu badass. They fit that in there somehow too.
If by "stupid movie" he means unintelligent (Though putting on heirs hat it is otherwise) and redeemable mostly through it's great cinematography and fast paced action sequences, then he'd be right. There's not a whole lot to "get" these movies don't really go too deep. They make a much better attempt at it than most action movies, but that's still not saying much, is it?
The Matrix was nothing more than a combination of mindless action and pseudo-itellectual giberish. I admit that the action was fairly entertaining and the effects were good (if ocationally too show-offy). But the plot was absolutly laughable. Well i never saw any of the sequals (I disliked the first and have no intention of seeing the rest). But it seems to me that the machines could just identify the malcontents themselves (they are capable of doing this becasue the bad guys got to Neo before the good guys did) and then kill them.
The matrix is best labeled as a Scifan (scientific fantasy) as opposed to a Scifi which at least try to stay within reason.
It's essentially an entertaining extrapolation from typical human paranoia about invasion of privacy, and the dehumanising effects of technology. All the plot anamolies, such as the inefficiency of using people as batteries, are just the result of building a story around the main themes.
"The inner core of the earth will not cool down any time soon (sun or no sun)." these robots arent planning to survive a thousand years, theyre planning to be around for millions of years neutrino albertross said "When someone is detached from the matrix why do the robots just toss them in the ocean? They know there's a submarine down there picking them up." watch the movies again, there is no submarine!!! morepheus flies his ship to where he knows neo is (he knows hes there because the pill that neo took was "part of a trace program"), picks neo up and is out of there b4 the machines even notice something is out of the ordinary there is only 1 fault that has been pointed out that hasnt been rebutted, and that is that humans arre very inefficient batteries, theres an explaination, maybe its that they arent being used as generators, merely converters, that would make alot of sense
Actually the earth will be getting hotter over the next million and billion years. Also a better theory on it was that machines were using humans not for power but for server arrays, think of it 100-1000teraflops of processing power per person, and the matrix is just one big screen saver.
Oops, for some odd reason i though morpheus's ship was under water not in the air not sure how i got that idea. But i dont see how it changes anything. The machines know that the people they throw in the ocean are being picked up so why dont they kill them instead?
I strongly endorse this policy. The first matrix was a sublime poetry of an action film, with two scoops of masturbatory eastern philosophy slurry mixed in. The other two films in the matrix are unmatchable garbage. Actually, the second one has 3 fight scenes that I would almost call mandatory for anyone who claims to like action movies, but there should be a warning on the cover to not sit through the "plot" to get to them. Use the chapter selection.
Be fair: after the originality and stunning revelation of the first film, it would be hard to make any sequel half as ground-breaking. Matrix 2 & 3 were bound to seem like inferior cash-ins. The cast were doing their best - there was a lack of decent plot or character drama, however.
Alain, The only realistic way you could get energy out of a person would be by forcing them into activity (like turning a treadmill), or by burning them. How are the humans fed in the Matrix? Growing food requires sunlight, which is blocked out by those clouds. So presumably the machines use artificial light instead. How do they power these lights? -By using human batteries. How are the human batteries powered? -By eating food. How is the food grown? -By artificial light... The idea of using people as an energy source is the most absurd thing in a pretty absurd film. I love the idea of unknowingly inhabiting am artificial reality, but it's been done MUCH more intelligently before - many of Greg Egan's books, for example (and Diaspora in particular).
how so, you have all only uncovered one plot hole in the entire trilogy and that does have some possible (although unlikely) explanations a third of a plot hole is a very good record for a SF movie, find some problems with the movies b4 u start hacking on it
