France has become institutionally RACIST

Discussion in 'Religion Archives' started by Proud_Muslim, Feb 6, 2004.

  1. otheadp Banned Banned

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    come on man... that's too harsh.
    Islam itself can be interpreted as a noble thing.
    its current state though is pretty pathetic. that's because of its mixing in politics and other sick shit.

    just because PM likes to have sex with dead goats, likes to spew hateful shit, and commits every single fallacy when he argues, does not mean that Islam itself is strictly bad.

    there's good and bad in everything
     
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  3. Proud_Muslim Shield of Islam Registered Senior Member

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  5. otheadp Banned Banned

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    but Post Menstrual here belongs to the "bad"
     
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  7. Vienna Registered Senior Member

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    He hee - It's probably because his daddy can't find him a wife -

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  8. Vienna Registered Senior Member

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    He hee, well if I'm on ignore I might as well make the most of it, he prob wont read it anyway

    Islam itself can be interpreted as a noble thing.
    It can, but it is seldom practised as noble - more warlike.

    its current state though is pretty pathetic. that's because of its mixing in politics and other sick shit.
    It is the only faith that has a political law (Sharia), that is why it is dangerous and is sick shit.

    just because PM likes to have sex with dead goats, likes to spew hateful shit, and commits every single fallacy when he argues, does not mean that Islam itself is strictly bad.
    Islam is not healthy in modern society, it is 600 years behind civilisation and this gap is too great for them to come to terms with.

    Tell me one good thing about Islam - There's nothing positive to be said because its sole intent is to kill the infidels - to destroy and conquer the West, Russia, China etc.
    It is a cancer of the human race.

    LOL - how true

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  9. Michael 歌舞伎 Valued Senior Member

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    France is a democratic society. Democracy doesn’t equate to
    ”so long as I’m doing my own thing, then I can do what ever I like”. They do not allow one to walk down the street naked do they? No. The French people decide/democratically what is acceptable and what isn’t and they have decided that wearing religious affiliated clothing or signs are not acceptable in public schools. Just as they have decided that going to school naked isn’t acceptable. So democracy doesn’t = free to do whatever you want. It is equated to - free to do what the majority in the society accept they want. Do you have a problem with school uniforms?

    Don't get me wrong I'd vote out anyone who suggested wearing a perfectly normal piece of clothing outside of school is not appropriate inside of school (that is unless it’s a private school). I think the Muslim girls should be able to wear anything from a mini skirt to a hajib – as I am sure many Muslim girls do outside of school.


    I have a few questions?
    Do you agree that it should or should not be OK in Saudi Arabia for
    1) Women to have all the freedom as a man?
    2) Women to work?
    3) Christians to preach their religion and try to convert Muslims to Christianity?
    4) Jews to preach the values of their religion and where land is available to build synagogues and other religions institutions?
    5) For Atheists (like me) to preach their interpretation of why we have religion and try to convert people away from Islam into Atheism?

    I’m just curious.
     
  10. otheadp Banned Banned

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    Tell me one good thing about Islam - There's nothing positive to be said because its sole intent is to kill the infidels - to destroy and conquer the West, Russia, China etc.
    It is a cancer of the human race.

    that is political islam.
    it includes many other horrible things.

    but as a religion, it has some sort of moral base, tradition, sense of community, family values, etc.

    in principle it advocates peace and friendly relations
    but it is the politization of it that makes it a "cancer"

    PM likes to have sex with dead goats
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    LOL - how true

    he likes the dead ones because live ones are not "willing"

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  11. Greco Registered Senior Member

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    Feeling suicidal lately? Saudi Arabia is another planet. Culture shock city.But I'll refrain from any more comments till our Proud Muslim responds.
     
  12. Ozymandias Unregistered User Registered Senior Member

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    spidergoat:

    "jewish yamica,"

    Isn't it "yarmulke"?
     
  13. otheadp Banned Banned

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    "yarmulke" (yiddish) or "kippa" (hebrew)
     
  14. Siddhartha Registered Senior Member

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    Now you've both accused each other of nonsense. What I'd ask you both to think about is, how can either of you prove the validity of your stance? Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.
     
  15. Tiassa Let us not launch the boat ... Valued Senior Member

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    This, coming from you, Otheadp?

    Impressive in its irony.
     
  16. Cowboy My Aim Is True Valued Senior Member

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    So why aren't Muslims fixing their own houses by staying in Muslim countries rather than immigrating to the West?

    Anyway, your defense of Saudi Arabia later in your post makes it clear you have no interest in fixing the "houses" of any Muslim neighbors.

    Where is this "massive discrimination in most western states"?

    There was oppression of non-Muslims in Muslim nations long before France banned religious symbols including - but not exclusively - the hijab. Why weren't you complaining about this oppression before?

    Why can you only address one issue in one place at one time? Here at SciForums you post in more than one thread at a time, so why does this suddenly become impossible when the topic becomes Islamic oppression of non-Muslims?

    If you really wanted to impress me you would start a whole thread here at SciForums defending the rights of a Christian, Hindu, Jew or Scientologist to practice his or her religion in a place like Saudi Arabia.

    So you were clearly lying when, earlier in this thread, you stated: "Saudi Arabia is closed religious state, they declare that and they make that very clear, so you have no right to question them, tell the french to declare their state religious, closed and conservative and muslims will shut up"

    That doesn't explain away situations like Saudi Arabia where Muslims are the source of the aggression.

    Your hypocrisy is astounding. You are now defending the "right" of Muslim states to be closed, oppressive theocracies why denying non-Muslim states the "right" to do the same. You are willing to disregard your own religion in order to eliminate any dissenting views.

    Anyway; what about someone already living in Saudi Arabia - someone who was born there, whose family has lived there for centuries or longer - who wishes to convert to something other than Islam? Oh, wait. You've already given a hypocritical answer to that question in the next paragraph.

    So you believe that Christian and Jews should only have the right to freely exercise their religion if they abandon their own beliefs and start worshipping prophets and gods from your religion. So much for the non-compulsion of religion in Islam.

    Would you oppose removing all Muslims from non-Muslim countries using that same reasoning?

    Do Muslims believe that Judaism, Christianity, Scientology, Hinduism, Asatru, Buddhism and Wicca are divine? What about all the other religions?

    Do Muslims recognize Odin and Ganesha as gods and Joseph Smith as a prophet from God? How about the Dalai Lama? What about all the other gods and alleged prophets out there?

    After hearing your answers to my questions above, I will use your own logic to form an argument as to why Muslims should be banned from every non-Muslim nation.

    In some other Muslim countries they are targets for genocide and slavery and sometimes have their churches and homes destroyed by their Muslim neighbors/rulers.
     
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  17. Repo Man Valued Senior Member

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    I have nothing to prove. Saying "I don't know how the universe was created" requires no proof.

    Claiming you do know how the universe was created; that requires proof.
     
  18. Tiassa Let us not launch the boat ... Valued Senior Member

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    You have no idea what you're responding to, Vienna.
     
  19. Cowboy My Aim Is True Valued Senior Member

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    Prove that you don't know.
     
  20. wesmorris Nerd Overlord - we(s):1 of N Valued Senior Member

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    Okay please give some indication that your intention was humorous.
     
  21. Cowboy My Aim Is True Valued Senior Member

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    Is that a "Show Me State" requirement, Wes?
     
  22. wesmorris Nerd Overlord - we(s):1 of N Valued Senior Member

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    Close enough I guess. Thank you.
     
  23. Cowboy My Aim Is True Valued Senior Member

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    Thanks for ruining my joke before Repo Man had a chance to reply, Wes.

    What part of Missouri are you from? I was born in Hannibal, so I'm pretty sure my home town is a bigger tourist trap than yours. Unless you're from Branson. Jesus Christ...Branson.
     

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