Freelance Jihad: Crusaders and the Soldiers of Allah(swt)

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  1. Cowboy My Aim Is True Valued Senior Member

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    I'd doubt that's the case, since she posts here fairly regularly.

    Since converting Christians to her way of thinking is so important to her, I'd think she'd be eager to offer concrete evidence for the amazing and undeniable truthfulness of whatever it is she believes (or thinks Christians should believe).
     
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  3. Proud_Muslim Shield of Islam Registered Senior Member

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    This is what you said:

    in another 744 years the Muslims will have the right to be as angry at the Israelis as the Spanish do to be angry at the Muslims!

    so you brought the criminal Israelis in the discussion.

    Because Muslims did not conquest land, remember, you are trying to apply the logic of the 21th century to the logic of the 7th century....you are not aware of history and what really happened, here is something to start with:

    The Myth of the Muslim Conquest of Spain

    http://www.themodernreligion.com/ht/andalusia.html
     
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  5. Proud_Muslim Shield of Islam Registered Senior Member

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    I believe Medicine Woman to be very intelligent fierce debater, but again, why you guys always personalize the topic ?? address her message instead of speculating about her personally.
     
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  7. Vienna Registered Senior Member

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    You must be the only one that does, but hey, coming from a militant muslim, who gives a frig.
     
  8. Siddhartha Registered Senior Member

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    Because they are not trying to tell you about something, you are trying to tell them something.
    It's not always this way. It is really only because you are the person spreading the word, and they are to listen. For this to happen, you must speak in a way they understand.
    I can't really comment on this, but I do agree that a lot of the moral substance of Western civilisation has faded in the past 100 years.
    Ah yes, but again I only recommend this course of action for your benefit. Thanks for not taking offence.

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  9. Proud_Muslim Shield of Islam Registered Senior Member

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    Sidd:

    Thanks for your sincere answers, I accept them.

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  10. Medicine*Woman Jesus: Mythstory--Not History! Valued Senior Member

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    M*W: I do not aim convert Christians to "my way of thinking." They are not THAT spiritually evolved, they would have to give up their oppressive and cultish beliefs before they could see the "light." I pity them. They have been brainwashed to believe lies.
     
  11. Cowboy My Aim Is True Valued Senior Member

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    Explain what it was about my statements you disliked. Your original criticism had nothing to do with my post.

    They certainly did conquest land, and by your own admission. You even started a thread about one such conquest in the history section: The History of Muslim Spain
     
  12. Cowboy My Aim Is True Valued Senior Member

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    In the Duty to Convert thread you claimed this: "The only important thing is to deconvert Christians through re-education of the truth.

    You obviously want their views to more closely resemble yours, even if it is not a mirror image. If you believe their views are lies and yours are true, prove it.
     
  13. Medicine*Woman Jesus: Mythstory--Not History! Valued Senior Member

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    M*W: Like I said, Christians would need to be deconverted before attempting to lead them a higher spiritual pathway. I'm not in the business of deconverting Christians, but I am in the business of re-educating them. The truly important thing isn't showing them to a pathway, that will come in time. The important thing is to rescue them from Christianity.
     
  14. Cowboy My Aim Is True Valued Senior Member

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    So tell us what this "higher spiritual pathway" is and prove it's truthfulness and superiority.

    Which contradicts your previous claim of: "I do not aim convert Christians to "my way of thinking.""

    The best way to "rescue" them is to prove the truthfulness of your beliefs. Let's hear it.
     
  15. Medicine*Woman Jesus: Mythstory--Not History! Valued Senior Member

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    M*W: Acid, truth comes from an inner awareness. What is truth for me may not be truth for you. I cannot impose my truth on you. I can tell you about it, but the rest is up to you when the time is right. It's all about the timing and the desire to know the truth.
     
  16. Proud_Muslim Shield of Islam Registered Senior Member

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    Did I say they conquered it the land ??? show me the specific place where I said that ??????????

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    So what do you mean by "Muslim Spain"?

    What do you mean by "populated Spain for nearly 700 years?" If muslims had not conquered it.

    Are there no muslims living in Spain today???

    What do you mean by these 700 years???

    Awaiting your reply PM

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  18. Proud_Muslim Shield of Islam Registered Senior Member

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  19. Vienna Registered Senior Member

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    To control a country it must have been conquered

    So, in your opinion - Who owns England?

    Islam is not a nationality - so that comparison is poor.

    The kids will be English by birth - but their ethnicity remains. They will not be Anglo-Saxon-Viking white ethnic English. English ethinicity took over 1000 years to produce.

    So you saying that Spain is not civilised without Islam, why ?
     
  20. Proud_Muslim Shield of Islam Registered Senior Member

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    Not necessarily, at that time, there was no countries as we know now, the Roman empire controled vast land without conquring most of the land.

    The Welsh.

    True, but I was talking about how Spain came to become Muslim.

    You see, we are here mixing nationality and race...some people say there is no such thing as English, I say there is and they should be recognized as the scottish and the welsh.

    Yes, I am saying exactly that, before Islam came to SPAIN, Spain and with it Europe was living in the dark ages:

    In his book, "The Day The Universe Changed," the historian James Burke describes how the typical European townspeople lived:

    Way back during the eighth century, Europe was still knee-deep in the Medieval period. That's not the only thing they were knee-deep in. In his book, "The Day The Universe Changed," the historian James Burke describes how the typical European townspeople lived:

    "The inhabitants threw all their refuse into the drains in the center of the narrow streets. The stench must have been overwhelming, though it appears to have gone virtually unnoticed. Mixed with excrement and urine would be the soiled reeds and straw used to cover the dirt floors. (p. 32)

    Have a look at this Amazing site, it is by non muslim western historians:

    http://www.xmission.com/~dderhak/index/moors.htm

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    Alhambra Palace, shining example of Muslim genuinity and excellence, Alhambra is the most visited monument in Spain and the second most visited monument in Europe
     
  21. Vienna Registered Senior Member

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    You require history lessons.

    Ancient Brits overuled by the Angles and forced to live in what is now known as Wales.

    Tell me - where are those ancient Brits now - are they still in Wales - I doubt it.... LOL!

    You know nothing about the history of England - There is no legal nationality as ENGLISH. Confirmed and endorsed by the British government and the Immigration Office.

    You have a lot to learn about the land in which you live.

    If ISLAM was responsible (as you say) for making Spain a civilised country - how come the Middle East is so UNCIVILISED today.

    You are hard work PM - I'm beginning to believe that you are genuinely thick.
     
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    when a christian defends his beliefs, is he also tagged militant christian?
     

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