Juche bullshit ends here. World Food Program Cuts Aid to N. Korea.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,108817,00.html (fox news more like faux news am i rite guys lololo)

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2003/06/08/wkor08.xml

I read in an article in Time about a year ago that the average North Korean isn't even aware that they are getting foreign food aid because the DPRK doesn't credit the WFP for their donations. Although I don't think the donated food is going to nKPA, based on the intel I saw when I was "in the know". They can't produce enough food to feed their entire population but a wide majority of it is concentrated both in the urban centers and also shunted to the nKPA. The average citizen doesn't see enough to remain healthy for long.

Personally instead of dropping food I'd drop leaflets saying that they will eat when they depose their government. It's about fucking time the UN stopped propping up despotic rulers even if it comes at the cost of people's lives in the short-term. Less people will die in the long run if something is done about dipshits like Kim Jong Il now.

It's not like it would take long for the place to collapse without outside assistance.

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this cannibalism you mention, it sounds a lot like what was going on in Stalin's times in USSR.

i don't see how Kim Jong-Il is going to step down though.
i also don't see how starving North Koreans will destabalize Jong-Il's regime.
thanks to the new toys he now possesses, the situation is even worse.

unless somebody from his close cronies assassinates him, he's not going anywhere.

 

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http://www.kcna.co.jp/index-e.htm

this is the official news release website of North Korea

holy shit... imagine being bombarded with this psychologic torture every day, if you're a DPRK citizen.

reading those "news" i felt like listening to Vladimir from Red Alert 2.......the sad thing is, this is not a game...

 

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Heh, no shit.

That entire situation sucks.

I'm surprised the US is providing any aid at all to NK, considering how much anti-American propaganda there is in that penal colo...er, country.

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Two things.
One, the idea of refusing aid until a group of ill-equipped unarmed starving people engage in a violent revolution is about as low and dishonourable as it may be possible to get.

Two, the UN is not proping up any dictators. The UN is, by it's charter and the ongoing direction of it's member states - most notably the US, forbidden from involvement in the internal affairs of a nation, be it a member state or not.
The US on it's own, however, has a long and dark history of not merely supporting violent brutal dictators for the benefit of US interests, but has an equally bloody history of actually installing them.
Personally, I think that this history forfeits any "right" the US may have to criticise the UN as a supporter of dictators, when the UN's actions are in reality to feed starving people who would otherwise die of malnutrition.

 

sparks,
don't turn the plight of NK citizens into an opportunity to criticize US's past wrongdoings.

how would you deal with Kim?

 

That was not my intention - I'm saying don't turn the plight of NK citizens into either (a) a means to carry out regieme change on the cheap; or (b) a stick to beat the UN with.

And we're not talking here about dealing with Kim, we're talking about feeding starving people.

 

Cannibalism is a problem that will eat itselve mus Kim think, but if he proves unable to keep feeding his surpressing apparatus, his army, he know he is in trouble, so he might do crazy things like starting war with S Korea.

This is why, I think, USA is still putting up and negotiating with terrorist like Kim and the world actually feeding his army to keep them quiet.


And yes, that website you mentioned reads like commications of the Brotherhood of NOD, not that many North Koreans have the internet access at all to read that nonsense

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Stokes, you think it would be a could idea to starve the Nkoreans into starting a war so that they can be dealt with superior american technology ?

 

That entire situation sucks.

maybe peacekeeper No.1 aka W would like to rescue those poor souls and bring them freedom , democarcy and the whole stuff

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Unlike previous years like in the 1995-1996 drought which was the most horrendous one, where millions died. The country now at least has for the past 3 years or so has been having moderately good harvests, but still the country is in dire straights. The regime will not collapse because of this, so give up any illusions pertaining to that. The regime has dealt with a much worse food crisis in the past and to make sure that people are kept in line she will deal with whoever needs to be killed. North Korea's leadership has one goal, to stay in power at all costs. The North Koreans also lest we forget will be propped up by China as much as possible, so yes it is a sad situation for up to 3 million Koreans who depend on food aid, but the regime will stay in power as long as the military is fed, and trust me it is. History has shown that Stalinist states don’t collapse (the FSU by the time of Gorbi was not Stalinist), they are stable and they last even under the most dire of socio-economic conditions.

 

survival of the shittest

 

Yes, but it is survival that is all that matters.

 

Children in North Korea are taught that Americans eat their children. There is really nothing unique about that, except that the target of the disinformation is America and not Japan.

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http://www.kcna.co.jp/index-e.htm

Pyongyang, April 22 (KCNA) -- The United States is taking issue with the DPRK over the "human rights issue" to attain its sinister aims, but it is as foolish an act as trying to sweep the sea with a broom, says Rodong Sinmun today in a commentary. The U.S. is a graveyard of human rights where the rich get richer and the poor poorer and many people are not granted even an elementary right to existence. It is monstrous that such country talks about the "human rights situation" in the DPRK, the news analyst says, and goes on:
What the U.S. seeks in raising the "human rights issue" as well as the "nuclear issue" is to cripple the Korean people's trust in their socialist system and violate the DPRK's sovereignty while impairing its international prestige and increasing the international pressure upon it.
Human rights mean national rights and sovereignty is the most vivid manifestation of human rights. This is the truth evidenced by the historical practice.
Nothing can break the Korean people's confidence in the DPRK and its socialist system. steadfast is the singlehearted unity of the leader, the party and the masses in the DPRK.
Though the U.S. persistently plays the old tune about "human rights", nobody pays attention to it as it will only reveal more faults of the U.S. as a violator of human rights.
The U.S. is well advised not to engage itself in such vain efforts.

interesting

 

Although NK does have a more grevious human rights record, in principle they are correct. For instance the US is the only state in the world, that officially kills minors. Hypocrisy is rampant in American foreign policy, as it is in North Korean.

 

Wow, that's about the most over the top generalization comparing two countries human rights record I've ever seen. Maybe you should send Kim your resume nico.

 

it's not nico...

but undecided is in the "nico fan club", no doubt

 

I see the substance of nothing...

 

I like the part where he cites the KCNA as an objective source of information.

 

who are you referring to?

my little post from the KCNA was to show how F&cked (with a capital F) the news are that the North Koreans are getting.