Beware of Greeks

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  1. sargentlard Save the whales motherfucker Valued Senior Member

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    Xev


    The kingdom of Zulu comes to mind but I doubt it qualifies for the title of civilization.
     
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  3. WANDERER Banned Banned

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    and look what great things the Zulu's gave us.....
    can you name one?
     
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  5. sargentlard Save the whales motherfucker Valued Senior Member

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    Oh the dude was a bastard but I was just taking a shot at Xev's question.
     
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  7. thefountainhed Fully Realized Valued Senior Member

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    If you know them without research, then they are in most probability famous. This is how fame comes into play, you nitwit. A black philospher? I think I already gave you a response.

    You lack an ability to think logically. Nose shape is a physical difference. The notion of a race is based on distinguishable external features. People are then grouped into "races" based on these physical differences. Others(you) further speculate then that these so called races differ intellectually. The logical progression therefore becomes that by physical features, we can distinguish mental capacity. How so? The two are not related. Of course men differ physically and mentally, but as individuals.

    No, not empricism, overgenerealization and non sequiturs. If a developmental difference caused both physical and mental differences, then the two will be linked. Therefore, an appearance of said physical difference will accompany the mental change. There is no such linkage.
     
  8. thefountainhed Fully Realized Valued Senior Member

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    Sarge, let me handle this please! If you want to know, there were Kush, Ghana, Songhai, Mali, Zimbabwe, Benin, Egypt, etc....
     
  9. WANDERER Banned Banned

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    Yea Sarge let him handle this.
    That was your funniest post yet.
    Ghana as a civilization?
    What the fuck are you talking about idiot?
    What the hell did the Songhai leave us to ponder over, eating bananas and headhunting?
    Maybe how to paint the body or how to stew man flesh.
     
  10. thefountainhed Fully Realized Valued Senior Member

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    Ok, one idiot, Wanderer, done with. Next up, Xev:

    How so? Perhaps you'd like to tell us why they can hardly be classified as "black"?

    You show a tremendous lack of knowledge woman. "Ivory coast" kingdoms? Which? And what characterizes a civililization? Stone walls? Using specialization, complexity, city size, etc Mali with its great city of timbuktu, the Kushites, Zimbabwe, Benin, etc all were civilizations.

    The simplest way for you to find them would be to look at Muslims.

    Who then do you attribute the "notion" to?

    I am neither a fool nor impotent. You know this.
     
  11. WANDERER Banned Banned

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    God you're fucked up.
    Name one civilization, not some huts around a fire or some naked savages with feathers in their hair,but a great civilization moron!!!!!
    Name one civilization that gave something, anything to humanity.
    Name one, ONE!!!!, black philosopher that expanded human thought.
    Maybe Jesus huh?
    Have you declared victory you pathetic idiot.
    There I win , moving on.
     
  12. spookz Banned Banned

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    here is how i see mediterraneans aka greeks

    swarthy, kinky hair, large facial features
    obvious niggers
    a major point of departure from africans proper was of course, thier prediliction for little boy ass

    you had your time in the sun (pun...hehe)
    resign yourselves to has been status
    resign yourselves to delusions of grandeur
    your minds are like your buildings....in ruins, empty

    step aside and let real white folk occupy the rightful throne
    step aside or be crushed
    you have been warned
    step the fuck aside
     
  13. spookz Banned Banned

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    who are these greeks? they inherited sciences from egypt and india. made minor modifications. systems of governance is borrowed. where is the originality?

    what is their claim to fame? ahh yes
    the nude olympics
    student apprenticeship
    all insidious homosexual scams

    step the fuck up greek boosters!
    lemme show you how you scammed a civ
     
  14. Xev Registered Senior Member

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    fountainboy:

    Because they were not exclusively blacks.
    http://www.stormfront.org/whitehistory/egypt.htm

    I said "great civilization". I accept that there were civilized or semi civilized places in Africa.

    So...what have they left behind? What philosophical and artistic works, what scientific discoveries?

    Islam is a religion, not a race. The Muslim civilizations were not built by blacks but people of middle-eastern descent, predominently Iranians.

    *Chuckles*
    How on earth would I know that?
     
  15. spookz Banned Banned

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    again
    providing a white power site as a source hardly inspires confidence
    scholarly sources are required
    if you fail you make your agenda apparent

    delete this and you would have made the biggest mistake
     
  16. Xev Registered Senior Member

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    Ad hominem, spookz. Source is of secondary relevence.
    They are white seperatists, not "white power" movement.

    Stay within line and I won't delete.
     
  17. spookz Banned Banned

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    you are resorting to.... "hey it looks white, it must be white"?
    heh hehe

    what line do you refer to?
     
  18. spookz Banned Banned

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    greece/socrates
    there you go
    a negro civ

    HLA alleles were determined in individuals from the Republic of Macedonia by DNA typing and sequencing and were compared against those from other Mediterranean populations. Below are some of the conclusions:

    Macedonians belong to the "older" Mediterranean substratum, like Iberians (including Basques), North Africans, Italians, French, Cretans, Jews, Lebanese, Turks (Anatolians), Armenians and Iranians.

    Macedonians are not related with geographically close Greeks, who do not belong to the "older" Mediterranenan substratum.

    Greeks are found to have a substantial relatedness to sub-Saharan (Ethiopian) people, which separate them from other Mediterranean groups.

    Genetic distances are closer between Greeks and Ethiopian/sub-Saharan groups than to any other Mediterranean group.

    Macedonians are related to other Mediterraneans and do not show a close relationship with Greeks: however, they do with Cretans. This supports the theory that Macedonians are one of the most ancient peoples living in the Balkan peninsula, probably long before the arrival of the Mycaenian Greeks, about 2000 BC.

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  19. spookz Banned Banned

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    the fact is you southern europeans are trash. the impetus, the direction of the civ was provided by a nordic ruling class. not half breeds

    where is the commonality. you expect a swede to gesticulate wildly like a frikkin sicilian? fuck goats like the greeks? merely sharing a continent dont mean shit.

    begone i say darken not the race any further mr cosapopulous nicostanpopopopgoatherder begone back to africa!
     
  20. thefountainhed Fully Realized Valued Senior Member

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    Stupid assertment. I suppose everyone in old Attica was "white"? An asian + black farmer in ancient Egypt makes that civilization not black, eh? Get a better source.

    "great" civilization? This is absolutely silly. So what is your subjective take on greatness?

    What have they left behind? Again you show a tremendous lack of knowledge. Find out porteguese reports on the great Benin upon first encounter. Look to the Phoenicians and Greeks for influences of Kush and Egypt. Look at Timbiktu, which for centuries, was the greatest learning center in the world, etc etc. Yuck.

    I said that great philopher would be a muslim, yes. An african muslim, you nitwit.

    Don't be silly.
     
  21. boombox scumbucket Registered Senior Member

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    Xev, I would like to ank you a question, and please keep in mind I ask it with no view to derogating you once you answer, whatever your answer is.

    Are you a white supremacist?
     
  22. Canute Registered Senior Member

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    Good grief. Is that what you call an sound argument?

    How exactly does 'having a civilisation' (in an Incan or Minoan sense) make people more or less 'great'? It's a circular argument.

    Nobody 'gave anything to humanity' that wasn't a two edged sword. Not all gifts are good ones. Giving gifts to humanity may well be something that it is wiser not to do.

    The practise of Western academic analytic philosophy does not make you a better or greater person, more's the pity.

    You're entitled to have strange opinions, but please get a decent argument together for them.

    I recommend a book called 'Mutant Message Down Under' by Marlo Morgan. It's a study of aboriginal civilisation. It may open your eyes a little.
     
  23. Xev Registered Senior Member

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    Ad hominem. If you cannot attack the conclusions, don't attack. Source is irrelevent as long as argument is sound.

    "Find out", why should I have to "find out" if they were such spectacular bastards? These great civilizations are few and far between.

    And for the record, I do not believe this to be rooted in race so much as climate. I do not argue black inferiourity, I simply do not like the prevailing academic trend of exaggerating every black achievement in past history and saying that the present is obviously the fault of racism/colonialism/capitalism

    Okay, so who is this "African Muslim philosopher"?

    boombox:
    Nope.

    Canute:
    Strawman, where does he argue that?

    Irrelevent.

    Again irrelevent.
     
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