What props you up? What do you think you know? On what hook does your ego hang? Do you ever take it off of there and give it a break? Do you think you're jesus? God? Are you the fastest person on the planet? How about the strongest? No, it's obvious. You're the smartest!?! Maybe you have unprecedented skills in electronics? Mechanical design? Macrame? ME? Hehe. Okay I won't lie. For real, I'm half-assed convinced I understand consciousness. I do let myself off the hook in realizing that this is uhm... highly unlikely, given the billions who have gone before me (and exist with me) who have sought the same goal and failed to communicate it such that the rest of us have a real clue. Blah blah, I digress. I don't want the details, just the overview. What is your delusion of grandeur. Please, be honest. This your confessional. Confess and forgive yourself.
I don't think I have any Delusions of Grandeur. I believe that I am an intelligent person with a better than average level of common sense; people who know me in real life tend to like me and think I'm witty and funny; but I don't think I'm the smartest or funniest guy around. I guess the closest I come is my belief that I make a damn good margarita.
What is your delusion of grandeur ? sometimes ( well ... let´s say often ) , i´m in the delusion that i can foretell other peoples action Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image!
What about the opposite, delusions of failure? I don't have any ( not that comes to mind anyway) delusions of grandeur, but I do think that I'm a great loser, possibly the greatest of them all.
I perceive "ego hanging" as a waste of time. I assert that most of those who brag don't have much skill to speak of, otherwise they would demonstrate it in the presence of their intellectual peers through their work. Rather, they spend time "talking down" to others whom they deem inferior to compensate for the aforementioned shortcoming. Thus, in response to the thread, I try to never boast about any skill I may posses, and the quote that follows seems to summarize my above statements rather concisely. None are so empty as those who are full of themselves. -Benjamin Whichcote Which remains true to this day.
Internally, does your ego not hold some of your talents in high esteem? Certaintly but I didn't intend this to be about bragging. I intend this to be about how you see yourself internally. I don't think acknowledging the details of one's ego is necessarily bragging. For instance to me I seriously think I might understand consciousness. To me, I'm most amused by the fool who would make this claim, but simultaneously sympathetic to the quest. Tis a noble deed (IMO) to strive to understand. I think that in order to ever actually achieve understanding, one must believe it possible to do so. Well sure if you're a true braggart. I didn't intend this to be a bragging session. I was looking at it more as a confessional. What jokes to you tell youself to keep yourself going and such. Do you think they might be true? - that kind of thing. Hmm.. that is highly debatable depending on the meaning of "full of themselves". Some of the most talented and impressive people in the world are "full of themselves" in the classical sense. Some of the most beautiful (and I mean as a human, not necessarily physically) people I've personally met, were full of personality (themselves) and just straight goodness which almost seemed to overflow them and onto everyone in their presence. I wouldn't ask that you boast, but is it boastfull to state what you percieve your skills to be... regardless of how they might appear to other people?
suffering teaches us the most valuable lessons in life. To fully appreciate loyalty one must be betrayed, to know what health is one must suffer pain, to know what love is one must know what it is to scarifice. Ultimately each man will and can only be measured by the hardships he faces, and how he overcomes those hardships. -Patience -Humility -Compassion -Magnanimity. If you have truly attained a modicum of each of the above, then you will have no delusions of grandeur.
why not elaborate further on this alleged skill and lets sciforums judge its validity? delusion? or reality? so far you you merely make a claim consisting of a single sentence there are a few competing theories i think. cosmologies/mind. what is yours? is there something to it that makes it unique? what is the area/nature of progress you have over others that allow for this ""grandeur"? me: the passage of time sees disillusionment rather that grandeur. perhaps the former term is too strong. perhaps the boundaries, natural or artificial, tend to solidify rather than weaken over time. but that too implies crap. one has to have unrealistic expectations in order to be disillusioned. perhaps assessments are accorded a tentative status until the evidence is "overwhelming". even then a certain degree of uncertainty remains. life is under constant revision due to stupidity. i find it hard to believe it is not the same for others. dapthar did appear to have delusions of logical thought. perhaps i am mistaken. Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image!
I've been working on that since I've come here. I'd like to repeat though: "I don't want the details, just the overview. What is your delusion of grandeur. Please, be honest. This your confessional. Confess and forgive yourself." I've explained my bullshit to the best of my ability at any given time for the last year here. I think I've made some recent progress but I'm still trying to figure out how to say it. I see pieces of it in my head but the words are hard to come by. Regardless, I'll be posting to the point of my delusion within the month I'd guess. Maybe not. I can say that I intend to at this time. which is perfect for this thread. I think i have an interesting perspective. Of course, I don't know if everyone else will find it that way, nor if it is objectively valid. It makes sense to me. I don't know if that means anything more than exactly that. life is under constant revision. it's not always stupidity that's the cause. frequently though, yes.
i need to clear something up. when you allude to consciousness, is it in reference to the mystical tradition? perhaps the metaphysics of the kabbalah? sufism? or perhaps more string theory like? wait. maybe even a mechanistic zombie type? are these valid distinctions? I've explained my bullshit to the best of my ability at any given time for the last year here. I think I've made some recent progress but I'm still trying to figure out how to say it. pardon if i havent kept track. i do admire the effort. its a sight better than doing nothing at all
My memory. That is my claim to grandeur- can't turn the bitch off. And its not a delusion. It really is fantastic.
... you're one stupid fuck, man. Almost as bad as I am. That's not even remotely close to a "delusion of grandeur".
Is it not possible to internally evaluate one's abilities without letting one's ego become "hung up" on them? For example, I am better at walking then swimming (Aside; I can only tread water, I believe, but I'm not quite sure. I haven't been in a situation where I have had the opportunity to swim in at least 5 years.), but my ego does not "hang" on that point. "Full of themselves" is a colloquial term for narcissistic tendencies coupled with arrogant behaviour. At least, that is the impression I received from the quote. No, but I assert that no one who makes a post regarding their skills is simply stating them, since, in the context of this thread, they are to assume that the skill they decide to describe is exemplary in some aspect, which requires comparison to others on this board, whose skill level they cannot assess (unless it is the rare case that they personally know everyone who views this thread). Thus, this necessarily brings the aspect of comparison to unknown individuals into the picture, and the subsequent judgment that the poster's skill surpasses that of the reader. Thus, it is not possible to simply "[state one's] skills" in this thread.
Wes wrote: My delusion: No other 46 year old man on this planet simultaneously: Loves his wife as much as I love mine, Loves the music of Bach as much as I love Bach, Enjoys philosophy as much as I do, Can do as many one-armed pushups as me (1000 per week), Understands orthogonal polynomial relationships (maths) like I do, Loves his garden as much as I love my garden, Despises George W. Bush as much as I do, Lives and works in a more beautiful place, Is as happy as I am. This is my confession. And now I forgive myself. Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image! Michael
