hmm so, you're Israeli huh? Which must be why you find the oppression the Palestininans deal with, part of a comedy act. And no, my Israeli friend, Egyptians are much cleaner than you.
your spin attempt is really poor. the funny part is not the "ethnic cleansing", but the claim that "ethnic cleansing" exists. it doesn't.
i have to agree with you. they are the smelliest people i ever known. i think they have no water in there contry and take no showerPlease Register or Log in to view the hidden image! Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image!
-Gotta admit that you always have strong unbiased opinions when arguing behalf of Israel...ha ! Thats is really strong defence. Did bring to mind one thread where Jerreks responses were: BAAAAA BAA BAAAA BAAA....well, here is some ha haha haas for you... http://www.washington-report.org/backissues/0693/9306019.htm And just tell me if didnt like the source and I will dig you another one Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image!
I am biased No doubt about it, I am biased towards Israel on most issues. I believe we have a duty to help protect the lone bastion of democracy in the region, and aside from geo-politics, I think the jews have earned a safe haven for enduring the shiznet that has been dished out to them for so many years. But........when it comes to the Liberty I take issue. I got interested in this story several years ago and read everything I could get my hands on about this incident. Obviously there is not the wealth of info about it that there should be because the ship was acting for the NSA, and CIA is a veritable open house compared to the NSA in terms of public knowledge of just what all they are involved with. But everything I have read, and certainly the web pages tended by the survivors of the incident paint a stark picture to me. This was a deliberate attack by Israel on a clearly marked U.S. warship in international waters. There can be no doubt that the Israeli pilots knew exactly what ship they were observing and subsequently attacking. Even during the attack (which lasted about 45 minutes from what I recall) repeated radio calls from the Liberty were ignored. But even with that incident staining the relationship, I still support Israels attempts to maintain a peaceful, non muslim republic in the midst of the chaos of the ME. Sharon and Arafat have too much bad blood between them for their to be lasting peace as long as they are both involved. MY hope is that once they are both gone maybe some of those 50 year old vendettas can die with them.
nice source. interesting to note that the pilots that supposedly "confessed" have no names. keep those credible sources coming. while u're at it, put a link to National Enquirer's version of the events. 15ofthe19: did you read the pro-Israel sites about this? there have been many investigations, countless interviews... there were at least 2 threads about this in recent months on this board. find them... i really hate being repetitive.
HI: 1- I have never been on US soil, but I have been told that America is the greatest democracy in the world. 2- I have never beeb to Israel, but I have been told that it is the greatest democracy in Middle East. Conclusion: No wonder the greats support each other. quack-quack Thanks
Why does US support Israel?.. Because our politicians are on their payroll!! Period!! http://www.aipac.org/ http://www.lijewishlinks.org/bicpac/activist.html http://www.jewishaz.com/jewishnews/961213/aipac.html http://www.washington-report.org/backissues/1188/8811037.htm Godless.
these damn jews control the world i tells ya!! Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image! Morteza: are you being sarcastic?
otheadp Not to commit threadjack, but you seem to be convinced Israel bears no guilt in the attack on the Liberty? You realize that the Israeli Torpedo boats were shooting at life rafts don't you?
Re: otheadp i do. it was Israeli fighter pilots who bombed the ship. the argument is that had the pilots known it was an American ship they wouldn't have bombed it. and liferafts or not, those were (at the time considered to be) enemy combatants.
Re: Re: otheadp That's a flimsy argument. And what of reports that the fighter jets were unmarked? I don't know if the fighter pilots or torpedo boat crews knew the Liberty was an American ship, but I'm pretty sure that somebody in the Israeli chain of command must have known who was on that ship.
Enemy combatants? So what if the gunboats thought they were enemy combatants? What has that got to do with the fact that they fired on lifeboats? What justification could there be for firing on a un-armed lifeboat?
USS Liberty... I never bought the premise that Israel did not know about the USS Liberty, because of this: Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image! source
the US prolly supporst israel for the same reason the supported saddam hussein and bin laden before. years from now our leaders will prolly be saying F*CK!
Re: Enemy combatants? remember how in "Saving Private Ryan" the skinny soldier convinced Tom Hanks to release the German POW instead of executing him? and how later the German ended up killing more US soldiers? that's sort of the same. that's, of course, IF the Israeli gunboats did shoot at the lifeboats..
oteahdp that is shitty logic. you are basically saying i should kill some guy joe now, just in case he might kill me later.
