Is god moral ?

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  1. yinyinwang Registered Senior Member

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    Does god konw what he was doing if he set off the big bang?
    Is god moral in doing so?
     
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  3. DarkEyedBeauty Pirate. Registered Senior Member

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    What would be unmoral about the big bang?

    Define morality.
     
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  5. yinyinwang Registered Senior Member

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    Since you asked so serious a question, it deserves a better answer than a post here, please go to my personal pages for a serious answer. http://yinyinwang.bravepages.com.
     
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  7. Q25 Registered Senior Member

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    how do you know it was god?
    couldnt all this Universe be just a chemical reaction?
     
  8. ItalianItellectual Registered Senior Member

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    Their is no such thing as moral, because look at it this way. People have different morals right? So who's right? Everyone and no one at the same time, if everyone has their own morals then that causes morals to be an equivalent to someones personal opinion. Thus causing morals to be a meaningless word. So was it moral for God to do that? Well I think it was right, what do you think?
     
  9. Hevene Registered Senior Member

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    Morality is one of our more prominent mental constructions. It is an idea created in the mind. We can't feel it, touch it, smell it or hear it. Is is a concept, nothing more. And it is a concept built up around beliefs which often are false.

    Originally posted by yinyinwang
    Nothing happens without an intension. God knows what he/she/it was doing if the big bang was set of. It is to create the here and the there, the ups and the downs, the hot and the cold, ie a world of the relatives in which he can experience he is. In the absence of which that is not, that which is ... is not. God knows conceptually, what god is, but there's nothing but god, therefore cannot know it experienentially. The big bang is a tool which god used to allow god experience god.
     
  10. DarkEyedBeauty Pirate. Registered Senior Member

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    'Intellectual', I'm sure that wang wasn't talking about any sort of subjective type of morals. People often misuse the word 'moral'. If you only mean your beliefs, then you're not talking about morality. If morality isn't something universal and objective, then morality isn't worth worrying about. The only reason people talk about it is because they are concerned with a higher morality, one which is possibly given to us from some higher power.
     
  11. yinyinwang Registered Senior Member

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    both, subjective and objective.
     
  12. Raha Registered Senior Member

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    Providing something like God really exists:

    Yes, he is moral - according to his own moral standards. He is supreme being, he defines what is good and what is bad, he is the creator of everything, including morality.
     
  13. ItalianItellectual Registered Senior Member

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    Dark Eyed Beauty


    I'm pretty sure your right about wang. Just thought I'd add that in there. Do you agree with me?
     
  14. DarkEyedBeauty Pirate. Registered Senior Member

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    What part of what you said?

    I don't believe in 'God'.

    I do believe in universal morality.
     
  15. Raha Registered Senior Member

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    So do I. But can you define YOUR universal morality? I can define mine - it's simple:

    Who survives is moral, who dies is immoral.
     
  16. one_raven God is a Chinese Whisper Valued Senior Member

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    Very well said.
    With one caveat:
    The popular view of what the Abrahamic God is.

    If the popular Abrahamic God does exist as is told, then yes, Morality is universal and that universal morality is based solely on God's actions, therefore nothing God would do could be immoral.

    However, I think the Abrahamic God is a bunch of hooey myself.

    I couldn't disagree more heartily.
    Define and justify universal morality, please.
     
  17. one_raven God is a Chinese Whisper Valued Senior Member

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    Quoting myself from another forum:
    And to the original question:
    What would be immoral about the Big Bang?

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  18. yinyinwang Registered Senior Member

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    Yes god define the rules, but the question is how he impose them?
    Does god abide to the rules he gave the universe?
    Do humans undersatnd god rules?
    Does human morality is the same with the god morality?
    In humans eye or morality if god is moral or not.
     
  19. one_raven God is a Chinese Whisper Valued Senior Member

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    yinyinwang,

    Are you suggesting that God sets a "Do as I say, not as I do" example?
     
  20. yinyinwang Registered Senior Member

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    That is what we are trying to find out.
     
  21. DarkEyedBeauty Pirate. Registered Senior Member

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    That's bull. Everyone dies.

    And...everyone commits some immoral acts in their lives.
     
  22. DarkEyedBeauty Pirate. Registered Senior Member

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    There are things we just know we should not do. We shouldn't try to control other people. We shouldn't kill people. We shouldn't kill babies. We shouldn't have sex with our children. We shouldn't spite people, purposely. We shouldn't put our work off on other people.

    That kind of basic stuff.
     
  23. Flores Registered Senior Member

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    That's not universal

     

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