The only thing that exists...

Discussion in 'General Philosophy' started by infinitethoughts, Nov 17, 2003.

  1. infinitethoughts Registered Senior Member

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    The only thing that exists...is the now moment.

    If you FULLY knew this, you wouldn't create any problems.....cause where are the only places a problem can come from?

    Riggggghhhht........the "past" or the "future".

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  3. (Q) Encephaloid Martini Valued Senior Member

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    If you FULLY knew this, you wouldn't create any problems.....cause where are the only places a problem can come from?

    Problems can only come from the present. How can you create a problem from the past or the future?
     
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  5. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    Even that does not exist. There is no moment that can be called "now".
     
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  7. Quantum Quack Life's a tease... Valued Senior Member

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    The now is eternal both past and future.
    The past and the future conform to the eternal now. So there- fore the past and the future are the eternal now.

    There is no beginning nor end to the now

    And if this doesn't confuse the reader I will be most surprised.

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  8. TheERK Registered Senior Member

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    Totally meaningless. "Now", "past", and "future" are constructs that humans use--and rightly so. You may argue that these constructs are ill-devised, but it would appear you'd rather parrot a mixture of mystical statements.

    To say that the past is now, is incorrect, given the definitions that these constructs have. To say that the now is infinite, is also ridiculous. Are you denying that there were any 'now's' yesterday? If so, why have they passed, if they're infinite?

    If anything, there is no now, there is only the past, future, and events described to happen at the border of the two. Yet I predict someone will jump up with an Einstein quote refuting this without actually understanding relativity.
     
  9. wesmorris Nerd Overlord - we(s):1 of N Valued Senior Member

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    Can so. Every moment is now. There is no other moment than now.

    All other moments are abstracts, though they leave evidence of their having been in the now. Sometimes there is evidence of what now will become.
     
  10. wesmorris Nerd Overlord - we(s):1 of N Valued Senior Member

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    /Problems can only come from the present. How can you create a problem from the past or the future?

    By letting your abstract impression of them overtake your mind in the now.
     
  11. and2000x Guest

    Past and future are always problems. Let's say that I go out and kick my friend's dog right in front of him. I walk off and wait an hour. During the present my friend comes over and beats me up.
    Why? Because he knows what I did in the past (kicked his dog). By only living a moment at a time, I am denying everything I just did. See the absurdity?
     
  12. Quantum Quack Life's a tease... Valued Senior Member

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    Maybe another way of looking (ha ) at this issue is to state that the past and the future are only a perspective "as seen" from the now.

    The events in the past "were" the now at the time. The events in the future "will be" a now when they happen. The events both past and future are not in some sort of isolation but only a continuation of time continuum otherwise called the now.

    So there- fore, as Wes will agree, the past and the future are just a subjective perspective of what has happened and what will happen.

    We take a small particle of solid mass and as it continues in it's journey through time it experiences changes and it's "now" state is the sum total of that change so there for it represents it's past and does determine it's future ( in it's relationship with everything else of course)

    So the past and future exist only in the "now" because the "now" is all there is.
     
  13. wesmorris Nerd Overlord - we(s):1 of N Valued Senior Member

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    /Past and future are always problems.

    what's the problem?

    /Let's say that I go out and kick my friend's dog right in front of him.

    what a bastard.

    /I walk off and wait an hour.

    note that during the hour, it's still right now.

    /During the present my friend comes over and beats me up.

    That's kind of a non-statement since it's always right now.

    /Why?

    Because he remembers in the now that you are a bastard and doesn't mind resorting to violence to make a point.

    /Because he knows what I did in the past (kicked his dog).

    Yes, memory of past events is part of the now for humans.. generally anyway.

    /By only living a moment at a time, I am denying everything I just did.

    Sorry but that's not true. If you deny the accuracy of your memory then you might deny everything you just did. However there is likely evidence to the contrary which exists in the now.

    /See the absurdity?

    Yes, stop kicking your friend's dogs ya bastard.
     
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  14. moementum7 ~^~You First~^~ Registered Senior Member

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    The past is a memory and the future is an idea.
    Now is eternal and as great as you want it to be!
    FUCK I'M AWESOME!
    YEEEEHAWWWW!
     
  15. Raha Registered Senior Member

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    So this was metaphysical sketch…errr - thread. And now for something completely different...
     
  16. sevenblu feeling blu Registered Senior Member

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    Tell it to you boss and collections agency....
     

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