Let's say, (very proximately) 1900 - 1950 Modernism 1950 - 2000 Postmodernism What is next? Does anybody see/sense a new period in die air? (eg. The existence of Postmodernism was "noticed" by theorists and critics only after it had existed for about 20 years already (in 1970's) We may have a new culture era arived and not know it)
RE yes I do not think any form of modernism is coming back. Its focus was the individuum (constrained by prety unlivable rules of very conservative society (Ibsen, Tschekhov)) aiming at freeing the induviduum socially (19th cent) then economnically (20th cent). It is possible that this concern with the indivudual and his/her rigths is definitely over. The thema of nowadays is more how can the society defend itself against extremist individuum which modernism and postmodernism produced.
I'm tempted to say Fuck all. What have modernism and postmedernism actually got to do with real life?
You have been cheated (by whoever told you that). There is no real life. All is words (Nabokov, the Bible).
HHmm, and how are words created? Anyhow, judging by your uses of modernism and postmodernism above, i cant quite say whether modernism is having its last brief fling, or is on the up again, even though it is just going to make everything badly unbalanced.
Through out the history there were elements which can be classified as modernist or postmodernist. (eg. Oidipus had many modernist aspect of eg. selfstudiing) so there will definitely be flings of it (always). But it has had its period where it was predominant and this period is now over. Formal theory of the deveopment of language sees the footprints (of eg. animals) as "first words". Such a footprint presented an symbol of (at that moment) absent entity (an animal) which could be identified by the footprint. The footprint was a (half abstract) sign. It lead to the development of the full abstract sign - the word. Words (therefore) represent an absence of reality. The more words the less reality.
everybody's trying to start a new trend/style. maybe i'm a little close minded but everything's already been done... what i see in art galleries is either paintings in established styles or complete SHIT that has no place in art galleries! (yea, i know that's what ppl said about Picasso and others...but come on... have you been in a "neo-bullshit" art display lately?)
Neocavepainting. But seriously, I dont think it is possible to say that a certain movement will happen, since everyone is into his own thing, his own favorite movement. And, everything from photographic realism (Ingres) to empty frames has been done...
I read an article in FT about the big style mode houses. They have scouts which go to the small shops in outskirts of big cities, flee markets, squaters dens etc. to find really original ideas: a junkie girl which put on something nobody woud dare/thing possible to were will so establish a trend of the next season. Possibly the same can be happenning in art, the academies and big galeries will have go to the small places where eg amateurs exibit in neighbourhood centres. Art (I think) doesn´t have to contain really new elements but it must ´suprise` you.
Basicaly two main styles have been alternating through out the history Classicism (light, reason) and Romanticism (darkness, feelings). Modernism (in its trying to understand the individual can be clasified as `classic´). Postmodernism is definitely romantic (eg. in denying that there exist any general truths beside personal views). The next style will then be clasicist in nature, it will be optimistic, it will value knowledge and science. Something like the ´Go West` song. (Jee, it´s going to be a terrible time. And I agree with you: there have been terrible times before)
I read an article in FT about the big style mode houses. They have scouts which go to the small shops in outskirts of big cities, flee markets, squaters dens etc. to find really original ideas: a junkie girl which put on something nobody woud dare/thing possible to were will so establish a trend of the next season. Possibly the same can be happenning in art, the academies and big galeries will have go to the small places where eg amateurs exibit in neighbourhood centres. pretty interesting... scouting for junkies Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image! most artists started as unknowns. Art (I think) doesn´t have to contain really new elements but it must ´suprise` you. or at least not put you to sleep from boredom
most likly it will all just iether polarize and become more extreme of whatever it is or wel develope many well defined sub-groups as oposed to just "modernism" or "post modernism". you can already see this hapening if you look at more than just whats in the art museums, listen to more than whats on the radio, and read more than just whats on the best seller lists. sociaty as a whole is not becoming more bleak or more positive, more brave or more fearfull, its just becoming more diverce.
Postmodernism would then be the last big "dominant" style. But what would happen if eg. new Shakespeare or Goethe appear, one will not be able to get to them due to the possible overkill of diversity (if everybody would write a book - how would one know which are the good ones ... the possible climax of this diversity will be that every person would write a book and be the sole reader of it) I think one would miss the masterpieces of the past, so that high diversity woudn't be able to replace "big" art movemens such as modernism was. In a way trying to know the world seems to be a team effort and styles seem to be the forms of spontaneous organisation of that effort.
re Anarch No. But let me think for a moment: yes I see it now: the sky is full of dark clouds after multiple nuclear explosions. There is a lake of cooking lead-colored metal. On the side of it two beauytiful girls are dancing in shiny scafanders. A couple of men are sipping happily from canisters of methanol. It's "the evening after" party...,
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