Legitimate ways to close Legitimate threads.

Discussion in 'Site Feedback' started by No!, Nov 5, 2003.

  1. No! Banned Banned

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    This is a quick and easy way to have a legitimate thread closed using semi-legitimate means.

    Here is the 5 step process to closing a thread.

    1) Offend the thread starter in such a way that it envokes a response.

    2) Troll it, make the thread off topic

    3) Start a flame war within the thread

    4) Have one of your friends with a high post count report the thread to an admin

    5) Watch and laugh as the thread you disagree with is shut down, much to the disappointment of the thread starter.


    Here is my example :

    http://www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?threadid=30160&goto=newpost

    Though I have seen threads go for much logner with no shut down at all. Guess it depends who started the thread neh?
     
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  3. goofyfish Analog By Birth, Digital By Design Valued Senior Member

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    It actually depends on when the thread is seen by a moderator.

    :m: Peace.
     
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  5. No! Banned Banned

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    This isnt a "feedback" post. This is obviouslt a free thought exxpressing an opinion about a course of action anyone on any forum could undertake.

    It's not scifroums specific, are you censoring me?
     
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  7. ripleofdeath Registered Senior Member

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    No!

    did it occur to you that there is a difference between boards?
    and such like with people

    your use of the word censoring is maybe you looking for an oppertunity to use it in one sentence as fast as possible

    you have not been censored
    you have been moved
    there is a huge difference

    before you start innitiating flame type threads maybe you could follow the site a little closer from a point of wanting to discuss topics that are void of personal insult and biggoted behaviour?

    groove on

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  8. No! Banned Banned

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    riple, do not assume you know the whole story in all circumstances.
     
  9. goofyfish Analog By Birth, Digital By Design Valued Senior Member

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    Perhaps you would share the whole story with everyone, beginning with your
    trolling/spamming of the forums on the very first day you became a member?

    :m: Peace.
     
  10. No! Banned Banned

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    Trolling yes, though your definition of "spamming" is flawed.

    But, what does that have to do with the closing of a thread which outlines the use of plagerism within sciforums, and asks opinions of the topic? The thread was closed when a high profile member posted against the topic, and as I have said, a great number of threads go past 2 posts off topic, with mods involved in it, and remain open. Both posts which were stated as the reason for closing were on topic, how is this qithin the guidelines of the site rules?

    The word censor as related to myself was used for that reason.
     
  11. goofyfish Analog By Birth, Digital By Design Valued Senior Member

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    Not. Review your PMs and correct this.

    :m: Peace.
     
  12. No! Banned Banned

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    The reason you provided was contrary to the actions presented in other threads.

    My conclusion is drawn from this.
     
  13. No! Banned Banned

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  14. Tiassa Let us not launch the boat ... Valued Senior Member

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    No blood, no foul?

    Take a look around at some of the more titanic topics that don't get closed.

    For instance:

    - http://www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?threadid=26302

    Or perhaps what it takes to get some of those closed:

    - http://www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?threadid=29653

    And how about one that just managed to get itself closed:

    - http://www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?threadid=30079

    There are differences in the moderators' conduct throughout the various topics. In fact, at various points, you'll see a mod or two down in it.

    And if you think you see any trends developing out of those examples, or if you choose to go back through the history of Sciforums and watch the actual idea of closing and locking topics develop, you might want to put that suggestion of a trend in the context of the Site Rules - http://www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?threadid=20345

    And it even covers your other complaint, plagiarism.

    Honestly? There's only one thing that puzzles me about our moderators and their conduct, and I know they've heard it before, so I'm not actually stating it now.

    I'll give you a hint, though. At least one part of it--concerning choice of words and attacks--has to do with a difference apparently too subtle for many. Consider the difference between:

    - "Fuck you"
    - "Do you realize you're advocating a fucking outrage?"

    Both contain foul language, both hack at the opponent. One, however, can be supported.

    Are you old enough to drink alcohol in a pub without violating the law? Listen to tavern-talk. It's a similar difference between one person's "Fuck you" getting a laugh around the table, and another person's "Fuck you" starting a bloody riot.
     
  15. No! Banned Banned

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    I think your last example was slave...

    There was no "member on member conflict" in that thread, there was a slight deviation.

    As for flores "protecting you" theory, thats rubbish. There is nothing that someone so fanatical could say to offend me in the mannor she described.

    I read the part about differences in attacks. How is coolskills anything but your first example?
     
  16. lixluke Refined Reinvention Valued Senior Member

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    I'm kind of confused because I don't know much about moderating. I saw No!'s thread on plagiarism in the forum. It seemed like a perfectly legitimate topic. One that I haven't seen brought up before. If it has, can somebody provide a link?

    I have thought about it a few times in passing, but never really gave it no mind. Personally, I could care less about plagiarism on the boards. It happens everywhere on the internet. But my question is, what exactly was the reason that thread was closed? The discussion didn't seem the least bit illegitimate or irrelevant to the forum.
     
  17. James R Just this guy, you know? Staff Member

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    No!:

    At the time of writing, you have 32 posts to your name. I estimate that at least 80% of those posts are complaint posts.

    I have to ask: what are you here for? You don't seem to be enjoying yourself. Or are you?
     
  18. No! Banned Banned

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    Actually, it's prolly more like 10% are complaints, and the 70% are defending points made within those complaints. I see a difference.

    There are some people who get an obscene pleasure from arguing and testing ones wits against another, or proving a point.

    I dont like plagerism, I dont like being ignored, I dont like losing.

    Answer your question?
     
  19. James R Just this guy, you know? Staff Member

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    I think most people here will agree that plagiarism is bad - except for the people who do it, of course.

    As a moderator, I deal with instances of plagarism whenever I become aware of them. In fact, there is a thread in the Religion forum concerned specifically with the "Cut-and-paste policy".

    If you suspect plagiarism in either the Religion or Physics forums, which I moderate, please post details of the original source (preferably an HTML link), and I will take a look.
     
  20. ripleofdeath Registered Senior Member

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    No!
    Both posts which were stated as the reason for closing were on topic, how is this qithin the guidelines of the site rules?
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    No!
    Actually, it's prolly more like 10% are complaints, and the 70% are defending points made within those complaints. I see a difference.

    There are some people who get an obscene pleasure from arguing and testing ones wits against another, or proving a point.

    I dont like plagerism, I dont like being ignored, I dont like losing.

    Answer your question?
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    LMAO
    well if you dont like loosing you had better read the site rules again as they clearly state that any and or all moderators may close any thread as and when they see fit

    so you have set yourself up to loose on this on,
    and expanding your loosing margin in expidential quanities
    with each further post to this nature

    just because a mod may wish to let one particular thread continue further is by no means a form of justification for another topic or post to be dealt with in any other or similar manner

    some rules are more relavant to others by the nature of the rule itself
    maybe you could read them again with this in consideration and then review your questions to get a better understanding of how you are now making your own topic of conversation as an excuse for complaint being that which is the excuse and the conversation beng your attention, as is, as negative shall be awarded

    anywho...
    just remeber true working democraceys are yet to come into existence in this world
    and if people can not even follow the rules in genral that they agree to in the first place by making their vote (signing in)
    then what chance is there ?
    you are mearly forcing the situation into a dictatorship!
    considering the related perameters of this scenario

    groove on

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  21. Flores Registered Senior Member

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    Plagiarism is terrible, but be reasonable and carefull in your assesment, let's not go labeling happy here. I expect you to hold the stick from the middle like Tiassa tried to do.

    I
    Let's say for example that one person out there have an internet site dedicated to personal notes on physics and he/she are using it to store draft calculations that are full of errors and not reviewed or checked or intended for the public use. Apart from the erroneous calcs, the guy have a picture of him and his wife having sex. This guy is a starter with java script and his password to the site only works for certain pages. These people haven't invited anyone to come and see the contents, but it showed up in a google search. Let's say that I liked a little peace that I saw on the site, and I felt uncomfortable attributing this stuff to the guy, since it may very well be very wrong, or perhpas I'm not confident if I can do that person justice in my interpretation. should I give us a link of the site exposing all things that I want to be seen and others that are irrelevant or flat out embarracing without this guy's permission. Isn't creating a link somewhere else on the internet of an original site a copy right violation on it's own.
     
  22. Silent Beauty Registered Member

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    Wow. That's easy, Ms. Flores, just email the guy the truth. that you searched on google and that's what came up. No problem there. Then he will certainly be happy for not only your honesty but saves him the embaressment that people are linking onto his site and seeing him and his wife in action O_O

    people liked to be emailed and told those things ^^"
     
  23. Flores Registered Senior Member

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    damn, you guys are becoming too good in problem solving

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    Seriously thought, the rules regarding copy rights on the internets and their enforcement is very difficult and have not been finalized by the government or united nation, since they involve global publications. Who owns the internet? Who polices the internet? Who allows people to post on the internet? Who reviews material posted on the internet? Are all material posted on the internet protected? If you find an official government global organized document regarding copy rights on the internet and methods of enfocement, please forward it to me. I'm really not aware of any and maybe acting and speaking out of lack of information.
     

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