Valid way to pay for college?

Anyone who has gone away to college has witnessed first-hand
the mind-boggling rate at which money pours out of a student's
bank account. If you aren't fortunate enough to have gained
a scholarship or received monetary support from your folks,
the financial situation becomes even worse. By the time funds
are spent on tuition, books and beer keg deposits, it's no
wonder Raman noodles are a popular dinner entree.

Thus, cutting into valuable studying/partying time, many coeds
are forced to find a job. While most college part-time work
will provide barely enough cash to pay for a weekend's supply
of booze, one establishment north of the border is offering
students financial help with their tuition in exchange for
their services.

Cash-strapped students at the University of Windsor in Ontario
have been offered aid through an ad in the school's newspaper,
claiming the organization will "pay your tuition". In return,
all the student has to do is work regular hours as a stripper.

As long as students maintain a B average in the classroom, the
strip joints will shell out $1,500 to $2,000 towards their
employee's $5,000 per year tuition. Though they face outcries
of broke-student exploitation, club owners believe they are
simply providing an opportunity to help students with school
expenses. So as long as guys and gals are willing to bare
their assets, the clubs will bear their share of education
costs.

Do you think the students are being taken advantage of, or
is the strip club providing a lucrative solution to college
debt?

 

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Are you asking if this is a valid way for a student to pay for college or if it is valid for the strip club to offer this type of employment?

 

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Originally posted by biblthmp
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Anyone who has gone away to college has witnessed first-hand
the mind-boggling rate at which money pours out of a student's
bank account. If you aren't fortunate enough to have gained
a scholarship or received monetary support from your folks,
the financial situation becomes even worse. By the time funds
are spent on tuition, books and beer keg deposits, it's no
wonder Raman noodles are a popular dinner entree. Cash-strapped students at the University of Windsor in Ontario have been offered aid through an ad in the school's newspaper, claiming the organization will "pay your tuition". In return, all the student has to do is work regular hours as a stripper. Do you think the students are being taken advantage of, or is the strip club providing a lucrative solution to college?
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(It's unfortunate that female students would have to resort to this type of work to make it through college, but I can tell you that I live in the US's 3rd largest city, Houston, TX, and girls here do the same thing. But I must tell you this: There are girls who wait tables at these places that are decent girls and would never go home with a man. We have laws here, too, that won't allow a waitress to come within 3 feet of a customer. My youngest daughter waited tables at such a place here. The owner called me and asked me if it was okay for her to work there. He wanted me to know what she was doing. I felt so much more at ease knowing he was looking after her. When the club closed, it was my daughter's responsibility to vaccuum and clean up the dressing room. She told me that cleaning up the dressing room was her favorite thing to do (by the way, she's a math major)! She said the strippers would change their clothes and money would be flying all over the place, and it was so unfortunate, but my daughter had to pick up after them. Sometimes she would clear $500 USD a night! Many times the strippers gave her good tips, and so did the clients. One night she got a tip of $500 for serving a bunch of businessmen. She has paid her way entirely on her own at a very expensive private school here. She has her own place at school, she bought her own car, and I couldn't be more proud of her!

 

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I'll admit that I don't know a whole lot of strippers, but I would say that it's unfair to say that they all would go home with any guy in the club.

That being said, I think that if you can do the job, and you know what you're getting into, there's no reason why the club can't pay for your tuition. It's actually really responsible of the club to do something like that. It's less exploitation, not more.

 

Oh. Good grief.
First, college students exist to be exploited. We all know the difference between a grad student and a lab rat - people take care of the lab rats.

Second, I can think of jobs a whole lot worse than stripping (my own). If I had to choose between shaking my tits and being leered at for five or six hours a night and doing what I do for eight hours a day (and for less pay, I'll bet)...well.

Ultimately it's just silly to wax moralistic about this - unless you're willing to feel sorry for the coed who cleans up the mess you made because you spilled sugar all over the cafe counter when making your coffee.

 

Some of us are good customers and clean up the messes that we're capable of cleaning.

Besides, I know I feel sorry for some people who work in certain conditions. When I'm around the people who work in the contract lab hereabouts, I always sigh and shake my head, wishing they'd find work that won't lead to 50% of them recieving peptic ulcers for less money than can be made as a sales associate at Office Depot.

Like I said, though, at least the clubs are acting responsibly and in a way that can actually help their employees *get* a college education, a feat that many businesses could care less about.

 

college should be free.

 

After just cleaning the back of our deep fryer with clastic soda and hot water and scrubing it for 2 hrs straight i would take a stripper job ANYDAY

and im really shy

 

That's funny. You are joking, right?

 

I agree! (in fact it is "free" in France)

 

I'm sitting on the fence here. On the one hand, I do feel like it is immoral exploitation of people in a bad situation. On the other hand, it is also an issue of the college student doing what they have to (or for that matter even WANT to) in order to pay for tuition.

One could say then, that this is a way of giving people with less morals easier access to College than those with stronger morals and thus discriminating, but that isn't an issue I can entirely grapple with either. After all, there are plenty of Christian scholarships too.

I might want to point out that here in Texas, the state Constitution says that the state is supposed to provide a free College education but this never came to pass.

 

I've got to point out that several states do provide free college tuition to good students. Louisiana (where I'm from originally), and New Mexico (where I am now) both have full tuition scholarships for students with C averages to any state school. In places where programs like this exist, this shouldn't even be an issue.

 

Not kidding at all.
College should be available to everyone who wishes to attend regardless of income. People shouldn't have to resort to working demeaning jobs to get an education.

 

How typical of Christians that they assume getting an eduction is a bad situation.

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Student loans are available, as are scholarships. Really, though, there is no such thing as free. Professors aren't going to teach for free, buildings aren't built for free, and colleges aren't maintained for free. That money has to come from somewhere. I personally think that the government wastes enough of my tax money already. Besides, most public colleges have very reduced tuitions. I almost paid more for my high school education than for my college education.

 

Ha ha, if by "public colleges" you mean "community colleges". Tuition for most universitys is incredibly high.

 

Xev: Tuition to a university in your own state is often $10,000 to $12,000 less than the actual cost of the education on account of tax subsidies.

Riomacleod: I don't consider educating people to be a "waste of tax dollars". It's important to your state's economy as well as the well-being of society to have an educated public. Also, on the "waste of money" front, why pay for high school when it's available for free to everyone everywhere in the country?

 

There's plenty of money sitting in the bank accounts of people who don't need it, to pay for college for everyone who wants it and is capable of passing it.

 

The trouble is that you don't know who's capable of passing until after you've already paid for it

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P.S. I know I don't really have any kind of coherence between posts in this thread. Maybe I just like disagreeing with everybody

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Or maybe it's just that I don't have a position so I shouldn't be arguing.

Whatever.

 

i was fortunate enough to get a music scholarship for a private liberal arts college; otherwise i probably never would have gone.