T3 Rise of The Machines

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  1. Red Devil Born Again Athiest Registered Senior Member

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    I went to see this on Sunday night and came away with the impression it was just a film to "finish off" T2. I enjoyed it and there were quite a few funny parts but basically it was just an end to end chase. Arnold was showing his age, Sarah Connor was dead, so we had a new heroine - John's "to be" wife. That will be the last Terminator, hopefully. It has reached the end of its "life" so to speak now.
     
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  3. AntonK Technomage Registered Senior Member

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    I felt differently. I went into the movie expecting something bad. I came out really liking it. I felt the movie added a lot of depth to up-til-then completely 2D characters. Sarah Connor was missed, but the actress chose not to return, what can you do? I really liked Claire Dane's character, she wasn't as push-over as I thought she'd be. I feel that they could possible do a T4 about the begining of the war, and actually do it without Arnold. Leaving that movie, I felt into the story line enough that it could be carried without the need for Arnold. Just my opinion, but if this director made a T4, I'd go see it.

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  5. Red Devil Born Again Athiest Registered Senior Member

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    Oh I liked it well enough and would go see a T4, but think that maybe it has been bled to death now. Maybe if James Cameron had directed it..........
     
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  7. Absane Rocket Surgeon Valued Senior Member

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    I have not seen the movie, and I really do. I have wanted to see it since I first heard about it about a year before its release. When I found out James Cameron was not directing it, I was thinking"man, this movie might suck." I will find out for myself.
     
  8. DeSeRt RaT UK Registered Senior Member

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    There was certainly more humour in T3 which had me sniggering. Did like the ending though.
     
  9. UberDragon The Freak at the Computer Registered Senior Member

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    I saw it with my dad and brother. I don't think they'll make another one because, to qoute myself "They've run out of sticks to beat this horse with."
     
  10. splunk yo' mama so fat... Registered Senior Member

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    i bet they'll make another. the whole movie was one giant set up. even the title: Rise of the Machines implies the fact that we are reaching the climax. we arent there yet.
     
  11. spookz Banned Banned

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    excellent movie, kicked ass, best so far!
     
  12. Tiassa Let us not launch the boat ... Valued Senior Member

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    SPOILER: They're set up for a sequel ... plotwise

    The end of the film left a logical opening for what seems a rather logical sequel, the war which leads us toward the first Terminator film.

    But a question ....

    Spoiler:

    If Skynet didn't become self-aware until it was out on the network (on every computer, every desktop, &c ... (closing monologue?), how did Skynet know to attack the network in order to bring about its advent?

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  13. Red Devil Born Again Athiest Registered Senior Member

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    Skynet existed as software and was not actually doing anything until they pushed that button in a vain attempt to rid the system of a supposed virus. But, as Skynet was a program that was "self aware" it invaded the systems in order to make it "look" like a viral attack - I think :bugeye:
     
  14. SG-N Registered Senior Member

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    Wow...

    I saw it yesterday, and what an amazing movie! It may be not the best Terminator but it's great and I'll wait for a number 4 : "T4 : the end".

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  15. Åudioslave Registered Member

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    Bit disappointed to say the least.

    Not what i was expecting it to be like, probably would've been better if Cameron had directed it.

    *shrugs*
     
  16. splunk yo' mama so fat... Registered Senior Member

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    what i dont get is how the "terminatrix" was any better than the morphin dude (from T2). I mean, yeah, she had all kinds of mechanical tools, like the flamethrower, that the last one didnt. But she was a lot easier to kill.

    on the other hand, she did have that infecting computers capability...
     
  17. DeSeRt RaT UK Registered Senior Member

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    she seems to be better but the end kinda baffles me. In the film we see her manipulating herself like in T2. But at the end if she even equal to him she could have lived cos


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    arnie wouldn't have been able to hold onto her as she would just become liquid and gone around him.
     
  18. Truenemo1889 Registered Senior Member

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    by DeSeRt RaT UK:

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    "arnie wouldn't have been able to hold onto her as she would just become liquid and gone around him."



    The T-X has a endoskeleton, so she probaly could have just liquified(totally).
     
  19. Tiassa Let us not launch the boat ... Valued Senior Member

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    Red Devil

    It makes sense that way, and it's what I would have presumed, but there's that reflective narration there at the end where Connor talks about Skynet becoming self-aware while out on the network; becoming self-aware in many computers. Maybe I hallucinated that part, I don't know. I was really stoned when I saw it.

    I can see the idea of the self-aware computer screwing with the network in a ploy to free itself, but my memory tells me there's something amiss about the sequence of events, as if that last monologue was tacked on for dramatic effect by a writer who wasn't careful. ("You! Here! Over here, now! I need twenty-two seconds of monologue to wrap it up and presage another sequel. You have twelve minutes!")

    re: Liquification

    Isn't the reconstitution process a little like startup time on a PC? I would think it takes too long in a combat situation. A quicksilver puddle leaping through the air as it reconstituted would be a cool effect, but it brings to mind visions of Dragonball Z.

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  20. UberDragon The Freak at the Computer Registered Senior Member

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    Actually, T-X wasn't like the T-1000. Those liquid thingies were nano-machines that enabled her to do certain things, like when she makes her boobs bigger or when she injects the cars with nanos in order to control them.
     
  21. Mucker Great View! Registered Senior Member

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    I've not seen it yet Red devil, but I've heard it's shit.

    What a waste of brilliant potential to an already great series.

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  22. Red Devil Born Again Athiest Registered Senior Member

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    No Mucker, its not what you call it but its not up to the other two. If your going by friends verdicts or critics, all I can suggest is that you see for yourself, or better still, wait for the video/dvd.
     

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