What does everyone think about the Roswell Ufo Crash?

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  1. ArcticChill2k3 Registered Senior Member

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    Do you rele believe that "Antigravity" could be just created out of no where, and doesn't it require lots of energy. DO you rele think humans can fly the speed of light right now and with all the thousands upon thousands of UFO sightings. Wow if all those aircraft are from the US gov't that means the US gov is exploring space behind our imagination. All we know they might be having a space war and conquering planets out there which the president doesn't even know about. HEH
     
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  3. Wolfboy Registered Senior Member

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    From my limited research in this area I have concluded that antigravity is likely created by using large magnets and powerful electromagnetic fields and would theoretically exploit Einstein's Unified Field Theory. It has been suggested that relatively small nuclear generators are used to generate the requisite energy to make this happen.

    I believe that we have developed anti-gravity techonology that is still in the experimental phases (? at Area 51) by reverse engineering recovered alien technology possibly with their direct assistance. Some sightings may be our prototypes but those are likely confined to testing areas in Nevada. The rest of the sightings, I believe, are "their's"
     
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  5. James R Just this guy, you know? Staff Member

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    Wolfboy:

    <i>From my limited research in this area I have concluded that antigravity is likely created by using large magnets and powerful electromagnetic fields and would theoretically exploit Einstein's Unified Field Theory.</i>

    Let me guess. Your limited research is from <i>Nexus</i> magazine, right?

    Do you realise that there is no such thing as Einstein's unified field theory?

    <i>I believe that we have developed anti-gravity techonology that is still in the experimental phases (? at Area 51) by reverse engineering recovered alien technology possibly with their direct assistance.</i>

    Why do you believe this?
     
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  7. Wolfboy Registered Senior Member

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    No my research is not from Nexus magazine, it is culled from multiple disparate sources--mostly books.

    Actually there was and is such a thing as Einstein's Unified Field theory although historically he never was able to solve it.

    This was to be a grand theory that would unite the fields of electromagnetism and gravity by establishing the fundamental connection or unity between the two.

    Some have said that Einstein actually did solve or prove the theory but dissavowed having done so out of concern for the implications to mankind should these results be widely known and distributed. He apparently feared the consequences should we exploit this knowledge similar to how we used his previous theories to create nuclear weapons of mass destruction.

    Those who believe in the reality of the Philadelphia Experiment hold that the disasterous consequences stemmed from an imperfect application of the completed theory thus proving his fears legitimate.
     
  8. Wolfboy Registered Senior Member

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    If you look at Stephen Greer's book Disclosure, many supposed government insiders report the development and application of anti-gravity technology at bases in California and Nevada. This would explain many of the unexplained sightings at Area 51.

    This is my personal belief based on what I perceve to be the apparent veracity of these cross-referencing souces.
     
  9. Shadow_Wizard Registered Member

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    Roswell did happen. First the government said : "Just a wheather balloon..."

    Now project this and project that to cover the existance of aliens. And why call them aliens anymore?

    Some of us have gotten to know these E.T.s better than "invaders".


    "We must turn to the sky for our answers, as our vision is blurred by our own false reality..."

    "Nobody knows the truth anymore as it has been wiped clean from our minds by ourselves. Now all that exists is fasle truth, false hope, and false life. Soon this world will be only clones, and I hope that one of them realizes that this cannot last forever and end the human race as we-"

    "... are the weakest link-"

    "...in this food chain. We will evetually fall."

    "Goodbye."







    You expected this to have a serious ending?
     
  10. phlogistician Banned Banned

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    Ah, the cult of Einstein! Einstein was clever, but he wasn't unique, nor the clevest guy to have lived. Somebody had to discover relativity, if it hadn't been Einstein, it would have been any one of a multitude of physicists and mathematicians that were his peers. If he chose not to make a link towards GUT, others would have, and published, and we'd know about it.

    It's not happened, because it's still eluding the finest minds on the planet.

    Area 51 isn't such a mystery, cutting edge aircraft research, end of story. No need to complicate matter with far fetched ideas, such as captured alien technology, reverse engineered anti-gravity engines, or whatever. No credible person has stepped forward to any evidence on any of this, it's all just rumour, to sell books.
     
  11. dinokg Registered Senior Member

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    The thing with the Roswel crash is if any of strange things were true. Like UFOs, Aliens, ext. It would be big news.

    So if theres any proof to it. It should be investigated.

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  12. James R Just this guy, you know? Staff Member

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    It <b>has</b> been investigated, thoroughly.
     
  13. dinokg Registered Senior Member

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    Actually its still being investigated.

    There is some research group that supposedly found the location of whatever crashed in the New Mexico desert.

    But so far its still unknown what the thing was.

    But seeing as it left a depression in the ground that is still noticable on their instruments it seems like its not a weather balloon.
     
  14. VRob Registered Senior Member

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    From reading both of your posts James, I don't think I ever seen a more arrogant individual, or a more closed mind. Kind of sad really.

    Can you explain to me why the files from the Roswell Base during the Summer of 1947 have mysteriously disappeared? Nobody knows what happened to them, but they are missing from the National archives.

    Something crashed in the Roswell area in the summer of 1947. I don't know what it was, but I'm quite certain it wasn't a weather balloon. (Mogel or not).
     
  15. James R Just this guy, you know? Staff Member

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    VRob:

    <i>From reading both of your posts James, I don't think I ever seen a more arrogant individual, or a more closed mind. Kind of sad really.</i>

    As somebody once said: it's great to keep an open mind, but no so open that your brains fall out.

    I've read enough about Roswell to be convinced, on a balance of probabilities, that no alien spacecraft were involved back in 1947. Of course, a huge government conspiracy is always a slim possibility, but there's no good evidence of that in this case.

    <i>Can you explain to me why the files from the Roswell Base during the Summer of 1947 have mysteriously disappeared?</i>

    It was 56 years ago. Things get lost.

    <i>Something crashed in the Roswell area in the summer of 1947. I don't know what it was, but I'm quite certain it wasn't a weather balloon. (Mogel or not).</i>

    What makes you so certain?
     
  16. 2inquisitive The Devil is in the details Registered Senior Member

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    post by James R:

    VRob:

    From reading both of your posts James, I don't think I ever seen a more arrogant individual, or a more closed mind. Kind of sad really.

    As somebody once said: it's great to keep an open mind, but no so open that your brains fall out.

    I've read enough about Roswell to be convinced, on a balance of probabilities, that no alien spacecraft were involved back in 1947. Of course, a huge government conspiracy is always a slim possibility, but there's no good evidence of that in this case.

    Can you explain to me why the files from the Roswell Base during the Summer of 1947 have mysteriously disappeared?

    It was 56 years ago. Things get lost.

    Something crashed in the Roswell area in the summer of 1947. I don't know what it was, but I'm quite certain it wasn't a weather balloon. (Mogel or not).

    What makes you so certain?

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    Although I believe there are some very good UFO cases that have
    not been explained, I agree fully with James R's above statements
    on this one. JMHO.
     
  17. monkeyman455 Registered Member

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  18. Jesus Registered Member

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    Who actually found the crashed UFO, was it Archeologists and then they contacted the Government about the crashed UFO, im not sure?.
     
  19. ArcticChill2k3 Registered Senior Member

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    actually a bunch of citizens found the UFO first and some of them even saw dead aliens, however military quickly found out and stat threwing dummies around and claiming that it was a weather bullon, those mother peepin bastards.
     
  20. LordAza Quantum Freak! Registered Senior Member

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    hmm i got a few sites.....that i've read. Whats weird is its from the NSA.


    Also ...its on a classified network as well as the internet. WEird is what i say

    NSA&UFOS?
     
  21. James R Just this guy, you know? Staff Member

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    <i>Who actually found the crashed UFO, was it Archeologists and then they contacted the Government about the crashed UFO, im not sure?</i>

    The weather balloon materials, plus radar reflectors, were found by a farmer in his field. There was no digging required, because the stuff was just lying around on the ground - as you would expect from a low-speed crash.

    <i>actually a bunch of citizens found the UFO first and some of them even saw dead aliens...</i>

    Correction: years after the actual events, people started saying they had seen dead aliens. At the time, nobody claimed to have seen any alien bodies. The people who popped up 30 years later with the alien stories had their stories checked against the available facts, and it was found that their stories could not have been true, due to certain things they described which simply did not exist in 1947 (e.g. the existence of certain buildings, a ramp up into a hospital and other relatively minor details).

    <i>however military quickly found out and stat threwing dummies around and claiming that it was a weather bullon, those mother peepin bastards.</i>

    The dummy drops happened about a decade after the weather balloon crash, although the stories got mixed up when the alien stuff started up 30 years later.
     
  22. Eman Resu Registered Senior Member

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    [QUOTEThe Pentagon thoroughly investigated Roswell and published two reports, the most recent called <i>Roswell: Case Closed</i> in 1997.

    Of course, the UFO nutters claim that the Pentagon is just part of the conspiracy, so there's no hope of convincing them merely by presenting a detailed report with all the evidence, is there? [/B][/QUOTE]

    Sorry if this idea was posted earlier as I have not yet read through the thread but ... it's suddenly become tough to read anything that the gov has to offer since the recent plan to take bets on the terorist outcome ... it's almost like another reality TV series!
     
  23. Ramrod Registered Member

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    The craft was found by a farmer. He reported it to the local police who then contacted the roswell army air field. The original report from a roswell air field official was that a "flying disk" was found. This report was published in many newspapers around the country. Shortly after, general Ramey announced that it was only a weather balloon. In 1994 the air force changed the story again and said that it was a top secret mogul balloon.

    Ok...
    1. So if it was a "top secret" mogul balloon crash, then why did this farmer need to tell authorities about it? You'd think they'd keep track of a "top secret" project.

    2. How could they confuse the original "flying disc" report with a balloon?

    3. Why have dozens of ex-military and other government officials come forward claiming to have had hands on knowledge of a craft "not from this world?"
     

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