...have him punished for being a bad example to all the little boys and girls who look up to the president for telling the truth Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image! Evidently, the CIA had edited out those lines back in OCTOBER that the uranium claim was a lie and not proven. Yet it shows up, and we won the war on terror as a consequence (or did we). http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A48847-2003Jul12.html What worries me is this is all that's been exposed as of now. Will the CIA and the administration move to squash any further questioning? And the kicker to all of this: Meanwhile, the Iraqi press secretary was quoted as claiming Saddam still has WMD and is in the process of launching them at Bush's Ranch in Texas.
We won the war on Terrorism because Ari keeps repeating it. They went after Clinton for diddling an intern, but when Bush the worst lies, the press just need to "Get over it" This war like most wars is really only over when the other side says its over. I haven't heard that yet.
Is it considered lying if you thought you were telling the truth at the time but later find the information you had was crap?
Before the war, people in the CIA were saying that they were being pressured to make reports that were favorable to the administration's position of going to war. What's going on now is a result of the pressure it seems like to me. I wonder who was insistant that the "uranium...........Africa" stuff went into Bush's speeches. If it was Tenet's job to take that out, then who kept putting it in the speeches? I watched Condi Rice being interviewed yesterday, and she would not answer that question.
Well, please, let's share. Don't keep The Truth®© secret. Yes, Mr. President...so where exactly are those weapons programs? 'Darn' good intelligence, but the weapons are nowhere to be found...the Hamburgular must have got there first. Sir, next time chew your food fully before swallowing. Or those darn terrorists will come and choke you and give you a black eye.
How can you tell? Bush (et.al.) seem to be playing a nice game of "my toys are better than your toys"... :bugeye:
I tired that excuse (I thought it was the truth but it wasn't) on my last speeding ticket. It didn't fly. Ignorance is not an excuse. Try using that excuse the next time you caught with another woman, "I thought it was you, but when I opened my eyes I was wrong" and see what happens. Of course with todays softball journalism, I can't believe they got caught on it. Most media outlets would have called Rice or Powell and asked, "Is it true?" and when they said no, leave it at that. While there might be hope for the fourth estate, I still believe they have sold out. What would everyone say if Clinton had done it? Yeah, I thought so.
The dogs turn on each other; McClellan misses wide right Two from Pink Floyd: Tenet hits back, McClellan swings blindly George Tenet, director of the Central Intelligence Agency, has struck back at the White House, showing that he has not so much fallen on a sword for the benefit of his masters, but rather to seize it and make his stand. USA Today reports that Tenet, who has accepted responsibility for the inclusion of questionable (false) information in President Bush's speeches to the nation and the world, informed Congress that what has become the Nigerian gaffe--"an assertion about Saddam Hussein's nuclear intentions that had not been verified"--was insisted upon by a White House official. Illinois Senator Durbin (D) has told the press that Tenet has indeed named the official, but has refused to disclose that name publicly. Meanwhile, the White House fired back: The White House appears to be backing up to the wall. On the one hand is Durbin, claiming that he has heard Tenets testimony, and that Tenet has essentially named a target for the next phase of the investigation. McClellan, ignoring the potential of the situation, dismisses the development as nonsense coming from political opposition, and refuses to give the issue any substantive consideration. And again the administration retreats to accusations of revisionism. But here's my take on revisionism. As president, I-- - Attempt to hide my actions and motivations - Write orders and submit legislation to protect myself from scrutiny - Lead the country to a dubious war based on my hidden actions and motivations - See the exposure of my lies, of my motives, and of my actions Obviously, the exposure of my lies was not a fact of the debate before that exposure took place. Ergo, any discussion of my lies on some previous date becomes a revision of history. Revisionism generally is reserved to the negative context. Positive "revisionism"--e.g. the correcting of historical myth based on available fact--is generally not considered revisionism at all, but rather the duty of historians. The apologies owed by the Bush administration officially exceed the capabilities of a human lifetime. It's time for George to consider being "reborn" again. Maybe it's time for him to pick up a bottle of Ripple and follow his original true calling. George may manage to save the White House, but he's going to sacrifice Congress to do it if he keeps asking his party to cover his ass like this. So, anyway, Air Force One crashes, and George Bush, Donald Rumsfeld, and Scott McClellan die. As they arrive in Hell, they are taken separately to their tortures. Scott McClellan is taken to an infinite room filled with an infinite number of monkeys at an infinite number of typewriters. "Scott McClellan," declares Satan, "for your crimes using words you are sentenced to spend eternity as a script editor for my favorite soap opera. Donald Rumsfeld is taken to an infinite room filled with an infinite pile of horse droppings and a small glass pipe. "Donald Rumsfeld, for your crimes of blowing smoke up people's asses and slinging horseshit at your political enemies, you are sentenced to spend eternity smoking horseshit." (In the foyer, Bush snickers and says, "Stick that in your pipe and smoke it!" and feels good about being so clever.) At last George W Bush is escorted down a long hallway and placed in a room resembling cigarette-stinking motel room. It is decked out with beer, pretzels, cocaine, and plasma-screen HDTV that shows only Satan's favorite soap opera (edited by Scott McClellan) and an infinite variety of Christian teleministries. Satan leaves without a word, and George nods and grins and cracks open a beer. He just finishes coughing and spitting out his first hunk of pretzel when the door opens and Satan leads Jenna Jameson into the room. "Jenna Jameson," Satan begins, "for your sins of the flesh I hereby sentence you to spend eternity ....." :m:, Tiassa Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image!
Is it just me or does our White house seem to be looking for some type of scapegoat to take this blame? Typical conservatives. Man enough to order others to kill civilians but not man enough to face the music.
No it's not just you kajolishot. And it is not just the White House who are looking for a scapegoat to take this blame. What you are seeing is politics at its finest. Don't all politicians feel the love when things go right and point the finger and make others take the blame when things go wrong? I know we are seeing the same thing here in Australia with John Howard. We have seen it before with the children overboard crisis and I am sure we shall see it again in the future when our Governments decide to do another stupid thing to further their own gains... be they political and/or financial gains...
White House aide takes some blame White House aide takes some blame (MSNBC) I think that last little bit says it all. :m:, Tiassa Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image!
Yes, Bush remains confident that Rice, Hadley or Tenet will take the blame the next time one of Bush's lies are uncovered.
